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Novomessor? Ants_Dakota? Ant nests? Confusing?

Started By KitsAntVa , Nov 12 2020 7:22 AM

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#1 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 12 2020 - 7:22 AM

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I already have many founding nests for these, but my ultimate plan will change the world! its basically just two phalanx with two sides connected to each other which allows around 200-300 ants I think to live in it. I plan on connecting more as time goes on because these are water tower gals so what do you guys think?
Also i've been getting mixed messages, do they need hibernation or not ?

Edited by KitsAntVa, November 12 2020 - 12:15 PM.

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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted November 12 2020 - 9:28 AM

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But how are you getting these ants in Virginia?


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#3 Offline ZTYguy - Posted November 12 2020 - 9:32 AM

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Yeah, I didn't know they were in Virginia. Are they even in Virginia?


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#4 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted November 12 2020 - 9:43 AM

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You are not able to keep Novomessor in Virginia unless you have a permit to have them


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#5 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted November 12 2020 - 9:44 AM

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Do you have a permit to keep these?


#6 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:07 AM

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I’m buying them from someone I know. But I won’t reveal info yet because I don’t know if they want to be publicized.
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#7 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:09 AM

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I’m buying them from someone I know. But I won’t reveal info yet because I don’t know if they want to be publicized.

This does not make it legal 


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#8 Offline TechAnt - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:11 AM

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So, the vauge way you are dispensing the information sort of makes it sound like your buying them illegally. But I know its not my buisness nor my place to ask you how you are obtaining them. I am not a police officer either, so its not my quarral on all parts. Anyways, I think that setup sounds good, and I believe they do not hibernate as they are desert ants. Two Phalanxes may be a little big for them but I have never owned one so I can't give input on that.


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(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#9 Offline TechAnt - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:12 AM

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I’m buying them from someone I know. But I won’t reveal info yet because I don’t know if they want to be publicized.

This does not make it legal 

 

This is true, you have to have a permit as well. Again, not my fight, just noting it.


Edited by TechAnt, November 12 2020 - 10:33 AM.

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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#10 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:15 AM

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I’m buying them from someone I know. But I won’t reveal info yet because I don’t know if they want to be publicized.

This does not make it legal 

 

This is true, this 'somebody you know' would need to have a permit, and I believe you have to have a permit as well. Again, not my fight, just noting it.

 

The buyer needs a permit the seller does not but will need a copy. 


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#11 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:30 AM

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I know all of this.
We don’t talk about that

#12 Offline TechAnt - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:33 AM

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I’m buying them from someone I know. But I won’t reveal info yet because I don’t know if they want to be publicized.

This does not make it legal 

 

This is true, this 'somebody you know' would need to have a permit, and I believe you have to have a permit as well. Again, not my fight, just noting it.

 

The buyer needs a permit the seller does not but will need a copy. 

 

Oops, let me edit that. Thanks for reminding me.


My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#13 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:43 AM

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I know all of this.

so you know what you are doing is illegal and can get you fined correct? do you have a permit to optain this ants?


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#14 Offline ZTYguy - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:44 AM

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If they know the outcomes and the seller does too then if they get fined then let them learn their lesson.


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#15 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:56 AM

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Even if I didn’t it’s not your place to say what I should do. I don’t feel like doing this today.
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#16 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 12 2020 - 11:00 AM

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please do not take this judgmentally, but it makes things really not sound good when you don't reveal if you have a permit. all you would need to do is say you have a permit, and it would be legal. all i are trying to do is keep antkeeping as lawful and enjoyable as i can, so we can continue our hobby in peace. not to mention try to get prenolepis imparis legal to ship faster. again, i am not trying to be judgemental or busting into your privacy, but as your antkeeping friend, please don't do anything illegal. 

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#17 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted November 12 2020 - 11:18 AM

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Yes, please don't do illegal trades. 


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#18 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 12 2020 - 11:24 AM

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on a better note, that design you are talking about is similar to what i am designing with the AntsDakota Desktop.


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#19 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 12 2020 - 12:01 PM

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please do not take this judgmentally, but it makes things really not sound good when you don't reveal if you have a permit. all you would need to do is say you have a permit, and it would be legal. all i are trying to do is keep antkeeping as lawful and enjoyable as i can, so we can continue our hobby in peace. not to mention try to get prenolepis imparis legal to ship faster. again, i am not trying to be judgemental or busting into your privacy, but as your antkeeping friend, please don't do anything illegal. 
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on a better note, that design you are talking about is similar to what i am designing with the AntsDakota Desktop.

The phalanx? Glad to hear ants Dakota is still working hard. I forgot to say, I resign from nest making. Sorry because of the virus and moving I cannot make them anymore.
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#20 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted November 12 2020 - 12:04 PM

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that design sounds good :) just curious, how large do novomessor colonies get? 

also, if kitsantsva is getting them illegally, they know the risks and they know they’ll get fined or whatever if caught. let them do whatever they want, in the end its their problem :P 


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