Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

I finally made an electronic aspirator


  • Please log in to reply
8 replies to this topic

#1 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 20 2020 - 11:13 AM

OhNoNotAgain

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,116 posts
  • LocationCalifornia Argentine Ant Territory

After talking to a lot of people, I finally got off my butt and made an electronic aspirator using a cheap keyboard vacuum.

 

I needed a cheap keyboard vacuum (less than $20 on Amazon), plastic pill bottle, drill with 3/8 inch drill bit (to drill two holes in the pill bottle lid), 1/4 inch tubing (exterior is 3/8 of an inch), a very short length of 1/2 inch exterior tubing (size adaptor between vacuum's opening and the 1/4 inch tubing), and tape to seal gaps (I used three types but electrical does seem to work best). Oh and some Fluon to coat the pill bottle.

 

The vacuum is not very powerful but it could pick up Veromessor pergandei (which are pretty small) while I cleaned up some of their trash.

It could also pick up Camponotus fragilis, with effort. The fraggles are bigger and heavier and don't fit very well into 1/4 inch tubing, but will eventually get sucked in.

 

I did find that if I wasn't holding things just right, some ants would get sucked into the vacuum's dust bin.

 

Thanks to the discord people for their building input/suggestions.

 

Pic of the keyboard vacuum.

IMG_2830.jpg

 

Pic of the pill container and the bag of Veromessor pergandei trash I collected. Not to mention the unhappy pergandei in the pill container.

IMG_2828.jpg

 

I'm sure a normal lung-powered aspirator is more powerful (never used one on ants). However, with an electronic one, it can maintain continuous suction. Even if one pass doesn't pick up an ant, you can make multiple passes without having to think about it. The main problem I had was holding the vacuum AND the pill bottle (has to be upright, otherwise ants get sucked into the vacuum), AND holding the nozzle at the same time WHILE also mucking around with formicaria lids and trash and whatnot. But you can pretty easily just hold the vacuum tucked under your arm or make some kind of stand for it. Again, most important part is having the collection container upright so you aren't sucking ants into the vacuum itself. Of course, this is so weak that they are just fine even if you do.

 

I did wind up using my ant paint brush a bit to clean up ants after the suctioning.

 

All that said, I looked at the gross stuff all over the vacuum cleaner filter afterward, and I was glad I wasn't using my lungs to suck that stuff in.

Eventually I hope to also get a blowing aspirator ... that would probably be lung powered, but at least it won't involve inhaling ant trash.


Edited by OhNoNotAgain, October 20 2020 - 11:29 AM.

  • ConcordAntman, ANTdrew and DDD101DDD like this

Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#2 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 20 2020 - 11:26 AM

Manitobant

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,912 posts
  • LocationWinnipeg, Canada
I have that vacuum and i find the vacuum alone is great at catching ants.
  • OhNoNotAgain likes this

#3 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 20 2020 - 11:32 AM

OhNoNotAgain

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,116 posts
  • LocationCalifornia Argentine Ant Territory

I have that vacuum and i find the vacuum alone is great at catching ants.

 

I bet! I was wondering about using the vacuum's intrinsic collection bin. I figured a separate container might be a little easier though? And with tiny ants I wouldn't want them getting stuck in the foam filter.


Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#4 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 20 2020 - 11:49 AM

Manitobant

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,912 posts
  • LocationWinnipeg, Canada
You can suck them up with the vac and dump them in a separate container. Also the smallest mesh setting I've found can work for the tiniest of ants, even molesta.

#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted October 20 2020 - 11:54 AM

ANTdrew

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 9,950 posts
  • LocationAlexandria, VA
Now you’re set! Thank you for an aspirational post.
  • Scherme, ConcordAntman, NickAnter and 4 others like this
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#6 Offline ponerinecat - Posted October 20 2020 - 12:01 PM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Add some mesh to the tube leading to the vacuum. You can glue it on or directly melt the tube around it. A good filter generally eliminates all debris particles and organic material in the case of a lung powered aspirator as well.



#7 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 20 2020 - 12:27 PM

OhNoNotAgain

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,116 posts
  • LocationCalifornia Argentine Ant Territory

Okay I'll clarify I have used the baby snot version of an aspirator and I do believe (iirc) I managed to get a cold this way. I didn't get any of the obvious matter, but the germs ... the germs still made it.  :lol:


Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#8 Offline smares - Posted October 26 2020 - 5:41 PM

smares

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 211 posts
  • LocationLakewood, Colorado
Does the vacuumed need to be plugged in? Or can it be used on the go?

#9 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 26 2020 - 7:08 PM

OhNoNotAgain

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,116 posts
  • LocationCalifornia Argentine Ant Territory

Does the vacuumed need to be plugged in? Or can it be used on the go?

 

The one I got has an internal battery and is charged/powered through USB. So yes, it can be used on the go. I haven't tested to see how long it lasts.

It also takes a little while to power up its suction when first turned on.


Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users