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#1 Offline Queen - Posted October 12 2020 - 9:49 AM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: 

So Cal

 

2. Date of collection: 

Did not collect, only observed


3. Habitat of collection: 

In a public park where there are dirt/grass/trees. Closest biome would be Chaparral or Shrubland  

 

4. Length (from head to gaster):

Approx 0.75 inches

 

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: 

Red. Some have red body and black gasters

 

6. Distinguishing characteristics: 

Not observed

 

7. Distinguishing behavior:

Seem to dig a lot

 

8. Nest description:

Nest is in a dirt area, the entrance is surrounded by dry dirt (sand?) hill. 

 

9. Nuptial flight time and date:

Not observed

 

 

Assumed it's Harvester Ants because it took all the seeds I fed it. However, not sure what species of Harvester it is.

 



#2 Offline Queen - Posted October 12 2020 - 9:56 AM

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Edit: I don't think picture attached in original post.

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#3 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 12 2020 - 9:59 AM

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It looks like a Pogonomyrmex species.


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#4 Offline Devi - Posted October 12 2020 - 10:10 AM

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Looks like Pogonomyrmex to me...

As for further identification, you would need a microscope.  It is almost impossible to note the differences with the naked eye...


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#5 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 12 2020 - 10:18 AM

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its most definitely pogonomyrmex but it literally could be argued that its 15 different species just from that picture but a queen would help to identify.


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#6 Offline Queen - Posted October 12 2020 - 10:22 AM

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#7 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted October 12 2020 - 11:17 AM

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Pogonomyrmex californicus most likely 


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#8 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 12 2020 - 11:40 AM

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Pogonomyrmex californicus most likely 

I agree because of the light color but there is a ton other types it could be.


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#9 Offline Queen - Posted October 12 2020 - 1:08 PM

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Pogonomyrmex californicus most likely 

 

But the workers look so much bigger than the Pogonomyrmex californicus I see in test tubes!



#10 Offline Devi - Posted October 12 2020 - 3:15 PM

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Pogonomyrmex californicus most likely 

 

But the workers look so much bigger than the Pogonomyrmex californicus I see in test tubes!

 

The Pogonomyrmex in the test tubes could be first generation nanitics.  The nanitics of a colony are always much smaller than regular workers.


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#11 Offline gcsnelling - Posted October 12 2020 - 4:33 PM

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Where in southern Calif.? In southern California there are only a couple of red species it could be.



#12 Offline Queen - Posted October 12 2020 - 7:50 PM

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Where in southern Calif.? In southern California there are only a couple of red species it could be.

 

Orange County



#13 Offline gcsnelling - Posted October 13 2020 - 2:25 AM

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Then this is indeed most likely P. californicus, the other option is P. subnitidus which tends to me a more mountainous living species .



#14 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 13 2020 - 7:21 AM

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I agree with cf. californicus.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis





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