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Started By FightNFive , Oct 2 2020 5:32 PM

Best Answer FightNFive , October 3 2020 - 6:48 PM

Nylanderia

Thank you for the help with this ID. I have learned so much in the last 2 days! When I got home from work, I had to break the news that we didn't have a Tetramorium. Initially he was bummed, but as I explained some facts of Nylanderia he kinda smirked and perked up. He got pretty pumped up after showing him some photos from some Nylanderia journals. Too bad were headed into hibernation time. Go to the full post


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#1 Offline FightNFive - Posted October 2 2020 - 5:32 PM

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We think we have a species of Tetramorium as we have a lot of pavement ants near the collection area, but some images I have looked at, do not look like our queen. So below is the limited info that I have. I hope there is enough information for everyone to help us out. Thank you.

1. Grand Haven, Michigan. In my urban setting driveway
2. Collected late May or early June

4. Length 6mm
7. Seemed to be fully claustral. She laid several eggs quickly (up to 10ish) then laid several more right after. Lately she has not laid anymore eggs, possibly slowing down for the inevitable hibernation 🤷‍♂️?

9. Nuptial flight time and date: unknown.


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https://gyazo.com/c5...9be4a1f10d90375

Edited by FightNFive, October 2 2020 - 5:34 PM.

#2 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 2 2020 - 5:44 PM

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I can’t think of any queen that size.. Maybe nylarandia definitly not tetramorium, more people that know will help very soon. Nice to have you in the forum!


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#3 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted October 2 2020 - 6:48 PM

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crematogaster?


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#4 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 2 2020 - 7:05 PM

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I don’t believe so look at the thorax of the workers and look at how the queen looks like a Formica queen. 


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#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 2 2020 - 7:21 PM

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Nylanderia flavipes, an introduced species from Asia.

Edited by Manitobant, October 2 2020 - 7:22 PM.

My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#6 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 2 2020 - 8:33 PM

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Yes that’s what it looked like thank you for clarifying Manitobant


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#7 Online ANTdrew - Posted October 3 2020 - 2:39 AM

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Are you certain about N. flavipes? I think flavipes are much lighter and yellower, especially the legs. These look like my N. vividula.
Also, I don’t think flavipes are documented that far north yet.
In any case, congrats on finding a really fun species to keep.

Edited by ANTdrew, October 3 2020 - 2:43 AM.

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#8 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 3 2020 - 5:56 AM

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Are you certain about N. flavipes? I think flavipes are much lighter and yellower, especially the legs. These look like my N. vividula.
Also, I don’t think flavipes are documented that far north yet.
In any case, congrats on finding a really fun species to keep.

i mean its definitely nylanderia no doubt.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#9 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted October 3 2020 - 7:59 AM

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Nylanderia. The species here are parvula and faisonensis, and I think one more, but I am blanking about on the name. Not flavipes I don’t think. I have been trying to find Nylanderia for a while now.
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#10 Offline FightNFive - Posted October 3 2020 - 10:08 AM

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How did we eliminate a crematogaster species or Formica species from the possibilities?

#11 Online ANTdrew - Posted October 3 2020 - 11:45 AM

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Too small for Crematogaster or Formica. I also keep Nylanderia, so I can just tell by the look of her. The red thorax is a big clue for me.
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#12 Offline FightNFive - Posted October 3 2020 - 6:48 PM   Best Answer

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Nylanderia

Thank you for the help with this ID. I have learned so much in the last 2 days! When I got home from work, I had to break the news that we didn't have a Tetramorium. Initially he was bummed, but as I explained some facts of Nylanderia he kinda smirked and perked up. He got pretty pumped up after showing him some photos from some Nylanderia journals. Too bad were headed into hibernation time.

Edited by FightNFive, October 3 2020 - 7:14 PM.

#13 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 3 2020 - 6:59 PM

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Its nylanderia, but definitely not vividula. That species is from the south.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#14 Offline FightNFive - Posted October 3 2020 - 7:15 PM

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Its nylanderia, but definitely not vividula. That species is from the south.


Good to know. Thank you for the update.
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