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M_Ants Hypoponera opaciceps Starting Over with Queens


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#101 Offline ponerinecat - Posted December 16 2020 - 2:09 PM

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Not much of an update on the Hypos but rather their food. My springtails I bought aren't doing to well (but I think I saw a baby??) so I took 6 and put them in a hydrostone setup. Hopefully they breed and can keep the culture going. I caught some springtails outside and put them in a charcoal setup. I also made a culture of springtails from my isopod setup. I'm feeding all my springtails nutritional yeast, long grain brown rice, and fish flakes. Hopefully out of all of these some succeed. My booklice are mostly gone and once they die out I'll probably never get another culture of them again. Sorry if you were hoping for an actual update. 

If anything keep the bought springtails in charcoal and move the wild caught to a hydrostone. Most wild springtails can't stand a setup as wet as a charcoal bin.



#102 Offline M_Ants - Posted December 16 2020 - 2:12 PM

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Okay. I'll move the wild ones. The ones I moved from my isopod bin, the silvery ones, they seem to like the charcoal setup. 


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#103 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted December 17 2020 - 7:11 AM

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Not much of an update on the Hypos but rather their food. My springtails I bought aren't doing to well (but I think I saw a baby??) so I took 6 and put them in a hydrostone setup. Hopefully they breed and can keep the culture going. I caught some springtails outside and put them in a charcoal setup. I also made a culture of springtails from my isopod setup. I'm feeding all my springtails nutritional yeast, long grain brown rice, and fish flakes. Hopefully out of all of these some succeed. My booklice are mostly gone and once they die out I'll probably never get another culture of them again. Sorry if you were hoping for an actual update. 

it seems to me that lots of your cultures are dying. you should look into that. there is probably a reason. i would try to fix that. mine died because i did not feed them enough.


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#104 Offline M_Ants - Posted December 17 2020 - 2:46 PM

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I really don't know. I'm no expert on springtails. I'm just keeping them for the sake of my Hypos.


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#105 Offline M_Ants - Posted December 22 2020 - 5:41 PM

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Update one the dirt setup Hypos. Today I got bored and dumped them out to see if anything ever happened. The queens are still alive. Not sure what happened to those cocoons I saw. They disappeared. There were some larvae so I put them and the queens back in the setup but without the dirt. I gave one larvae to the other Hypos. Also they seem to have eaten their larvae but have new eggs. Booklice are officially gone. Rip. The springtails seem to be doing okay execept for the ones I bought. They are mediocre. They are alive but there aren't many and they aren't multiplying. 


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#106 Offline M_Ants - Posted December 23 2020 - 3:21 PM

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I successfully bred the silver springtails! Also I caught a different springtails in my yard. Hopefully the Hypos figure out how to hunt the silver ones because so far they've been too fast.


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#107 Offline ponerinecat - Posted December 23 2020 - 6:40 PM

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I successfully bred the silver springtails! Also I caught a different springtails in my yard. Hopefully the Hypos figure out how to hunt the silver ones because so far they've been too fast.

Prekilling is an option, hypos don't require live food. Recently caught an opacior dealate as well.



#108 Offline NickAnter - Posted December 23 2020 - 9:30 PM

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I'm so bummed the Hypoponera queen I caught died. Lasted the longest yet though lol.


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#109 Offline M_Ants - Posted December 24 2020 - 10:22 AM

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Yeah that's a bummer. Hopefully you catch some next year. Good news for the springtails though. The ones I bought have babies too! I put them near the heating cable and boom, babies. 


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#110 Offline M_Ants - Posted December 26 2020 - 4:54 PM

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I think we lost another worker. Can't say for sure because I've seen them play dead or something for long periods of time only to turn out fine. Pretty sure it's dead though. I really hope this colony gets some more workers before they all die out.


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that's a rip, good luck tho



#112 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 19 2021 - 12:18 PM

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K. Pretty sure I just lost another worker. That means I have 1 left. There are 2 larvae but they are not growing. Do they need heat or something? I don' want this colony to fizzle out. 


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#113 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted January 19 2021 - 12:27 PM

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oh noooooo they are dying but i would try boosting the queen from a mature colony near youso the colony doesnt die, but i have never seen these much less kept these before soooooo


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#114 Offline M_Ants - Posted February 15 2021 - 6:07 PM

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Good news! I think I believe ponerinecat has saved this colony. I'll get to that in a sec. First of all I want to advise that anyone who keeps these has an aspirator. I finally was smart and used an aspirator to suck up springtails and it is so helpful. It makes getting a bunch so fast and easy which is important for this next part. Ponerinecat said that I should feed them enough springtails so that they had a pile of extra dead bodies piled up. I started feeding more and sure enough the pile appeared. (You can see it best in the second picture.) I looked today and boom, eggs! I think feeding these a ton is very important. The two larvae are growing still and now their are more eggs. You can see on of the larvae eating a springtail's head. I still have hope for this colony.

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Edited by M_Ants, February 16 2021 - 11:12 AM.

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#115 Offline M_Ants - Posted February 28 2021 - 2:10 PM

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Things are looking good. Feeding lots of springtails is certainly working. Saw a pile of sand yesterday and sure enough today there was cocoon. I think I see a second pile in one of the pics. Got a good amount of brood overall. So happy I'm finally back on track.

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#116 Offline M_Ants - Posted March 27 2021 - 9:04 PM

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Finally got a worker today. Currently have 2 workers, 2 cocoons, various sizes of larvae, and some eggs.

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#117 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 26 2021 - 5:38 PM

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Probably should have updated this earlier. These sadly died due to dehydration I think while I was gone. They really weren't worth the effort though. This year I'm going to have a ton of queens in a poly setup so that keeping them isn't like watching grass grow. 


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#118 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted June 27 2021 - 2:26 AM

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sorry dude i know you worked hard on keeping them alive


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#119 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 26 2021 - 9:48 AM

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This journal will likely return. I have a 3 queen dealate group and 2 queen winged group.


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#120 Offline M_Ants - Posted October 1 2021 - 8:29 PM

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Finally got eggs. They really aren't hard to care for they just take patience. The key is plenty of food. 


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