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#1 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted September 20 2020 - 1:40 PM

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My Solenopsis have completely outgrown their mini-hearth and need to be moved in the next week or two. I have a ten gallon tank that I made a lid for with acrylic. I'm would like to spend around $50 for the whole thing, but I can go a little higher if needed. I've done some research, and from my understanding, I need a drainage layer, a layer of charcoal, a seperator, and finally, the soil. I have some questions: 

 

1.  I know ants need a sand/clay mix, but how would I make this? Can I gather some dirt from a place where colonies normally nest? 

 

2. The lid I have right now is pretty well-fitting and has only a few gaps caused by the plastic bending a little. How can I give it a tighter seal? Weight? Silicone?

 

3. How can I create sufficient ventilation with the lid on, so that the oil barrier isn't rendered ineffective?

 

As, I get closer to actually building it, I'll probably have more questions, but this is it for now.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Pictures of the tank and lid (excuse the black sand, I just drained it yesterday):

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My ants: One small(0 worker) Solenopsis xyloni colony- Queen Colony died  :*( 

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#2 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 20 2020 - 1:46 PM

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Xyloni and other large stinging solenopsis are very destructive in terrariums and will destroy all your plants and decorations as they build their nest.

#3 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted September 20 2020 - 1:49 PM

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Xyloni and other large stinging solenopsis are very destructive in terrariums and will destroy all your plants and decorations as they build their nest.

Yeah, I figured I was going to keep plants and decor to a minimum. After all, the focus is on the ants. I was thinking maybe a piece of wood I have lying around and some tough grasses, which I don't they'll destroy too badly. I've seen pictures of terrariums of similar species, and they're mostly just mounds of dirt, so I didn't have too high of expectations


Edited by Dry_Twig, September 20 2020 - 1:52 PM.

My ants: One small(0 worker) Solenopsis xyloni colony- Queen Colony died  :*( 

Link: https://www.formiculture.com/topic/14139-dry-twigs-solenopsis-sp-journal/

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#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 20 2020 - 2:08 PM

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You could replace live plants with fake ones. They would at least last longer.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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#5 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted September 20 2020 - 2:53 PM

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You could replace live plants with fake ones. They would at least last longer.

 

Xyloni and other large stinging solenopsis are very destructive in terrariums and will destroy all your plants and decorations as they build their nest.

 

Why do they even kill the plants? There doesn't seem to be anything they get from it, so why waste time destroying their keeper's hard work? Is it simply a side effect of nest building?


Edited by Dry_Twig, September 20 2020 - 2:54 PM.

My ants: One small(0 worker) Solenopsis xyloni colony- Queen Colony died  :*( 

Link: https://www.formiculture.com/topic/14139-dry-twigs-solenopsis-sp-journal/

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#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 20 2020 - 3:03 PM

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Solenopsis build large mounds and have massive colonies so they need to clear everything in the area.
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#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 20 2020 - 3:33 PM

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1. Yes
2. Seal gaps with silicone
3. Ventilation is a big deal with Fluon, but I don’t think it matters with olive oil.
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#8 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted September 20 2020 - 3:59 PM

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You could replace live plants with fake ones. They would at least last longer.

 

Xyloni and other large stinging solenopsis are very destructive in terrariums and will destroy all your plants and decorations as they build their nest.

 
Why do they even kill the plants? There doesn't seem to be anything they get from it, so why waste time destroying their keeper's hard work? Is it simply a side effect of nest building?
Ants like to create a clearing around their nest entrance, and therefore remove every object in the desired area.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#9 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted September 21 2020 - 11:03 AM

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Today my ants built a small 'nest' in the outworld, with leftover trash. Combined with the permanent storage of brood there too, I've decided that they really do need to be moved quickly, so as soon as I have time, I will build the terrarium and put them in it.


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My ants: One small(0 worker) Solenopsis xyloni colony- Queen Colony died  :*( 

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#10 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 21 2020 - 11:07 AM

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can't wait until i can see the finished product!


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#11 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted September 21 2020 - 8:53 PM

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Is there a way to clean soil of chemicals?  I live next to a freeway so I think our dirt is a bit polluted and going to an active trail with a shovel and bucket would look a little weird. Sorry if I'm asking for help too much, either I'm a terrible googler or there's not a lot of information online.


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My ants: One small(0 worker) Solenopsis xyloni colony- Queen Colony died  :*( 

Link: https://www.formiculture.com/topic/14139-dry-twigs-solenopsis-sp-journal/

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#12 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted September 22 2020 - 6:58 PM

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Some bad news:

1. I couldn't finish the new nest today, which isn't that bad. 

2. I had given the ants some soil to play with, instead they used it to help them climb the walls. Now whenever I open the lid, around 3 ants escape. To try and fix this, I wiped down the sides with oil but they crossed it anyways and around 10 ants escaped including 1 major. To top it off, I killed 4 more when closing the lid  :(

I suppose that this is what I get for keeping Solenopsis for my first species and not moving them when they were at a way more manageable size. :facepalm:


My ants: One small(0 worker) Solenopsis xyloni colony- Queen Colony died  :*( 

Link: https://www.formiculture.com/topic/14139-dry-twigs-solenopsis-sp-journal/

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#13 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted September 24 2020 - 8:12 AM

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It's not much to look at right now, but I finally finished the new nest:

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The first picture is of the drainage layer, which isn't very good, since the sand I used isn't very coarse. Then, for the rest of the dirt, I just used my backyard's soil and sifted it too remove anything I didn't want, then froze it. I'll add some more stuff later, but this is it for now. I don't have pictures, but they started digging next to the heat pad almost immediately. 


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Link: https://www.formiculture.com/topic/14139-dry-twigs-solenopsis-sp-journal/

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#14 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 24 2020 - 8:28 AM

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It's not much to look at right now, but I finally finished the new nest:

 
 

The first picture is of the drainage layer, which isn't very good, since the sand I used isn't very coarse. Then, for the rest of the dirt, I just used my backyard's soil and sifted it too remove anything I didn't want, then froze it. I'll add some more stuff later, but this is it for now. I don't have pictures, but they started digging next to the heat pad almost immediately. 

awesome! looks amazing and functional!


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