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San Diego Blacklight Black Queen ID

Started By M_Ants , Sep 5 2020 7:41 PM

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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 5 2020 - 7:41 PM

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San Diego

9/5/2020

Very Very hot day/night

No idea what these are

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Edited by M_Ants, September 5 2020 - 7:44 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#2 Offline Martialis - Posted September 5 2020 - 8:01 PM

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Edited by Martialis, September 6 2020 - 7:55 AM.

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#3 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted September 5 2020 - 8:31 PM

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This appears to be a species of Crematogaster.


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#4 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 5 2020 - 8:35 PM

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Any chance they'll mate in captivity? I caught some males as well.


Edited by M_Ants, September 5 2020 - 8:35 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#5 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted September 5 2020 - 8:36 PM

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Probably not. I'd say your best chance is to put them in their respective test tube setups and hope some are fertile. 


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#6 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 5 2020 - 8:37 PM

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Slight problem...I ran out of test tubes...


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted September 6 2020 - 7:10 AM

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Looks like C. mutans, a parasitic species. They need host workers quickly. Actually I'm not too sure now. Maybe boost 1 queen to be safe.


Edited by NickAnter, September 6 2020 - 7:11 AM.

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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#8 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 6 2020 - 8:11 AM

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Anyone else think their parasitic. Don't want to drive all the way to find host workers for nothing.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#9 Offline gcsnelling - Posted September 6 2020 - 10:05 AM

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Probably not parasitic, in my experience Crematogaster that have flown to lights are likely already mated.


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#10 Offline Solenoqueen - Posted September 6 2020 - 10:24 AM

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I've actually blacklighted and caught C. mutans, you'll know if they are if they just die on you in the next two weeks. It wouldn't hurt to try brood boosting regardless to see what would happen. 


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#11 Offline Manitobant - Posted September 6 2020 - 10:30 AM

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It doesn’t look like mutans to me. Mutans queens have a much bigger head.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#12 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 6 2020 - 2:11 PM

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Any chance with better pics I could get an id? I can take much more detailed ones if it will help.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

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