Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

Proceratium sp. journal


  • Please log in to reply
27 replies to this topic

#1 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 5 2020 - 3:54 PM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
Today while searching through a Cape Cod(MA) pine barren/coniferous forest, I found a Proceratium dealate Queen under a large log(Aprox three feet in diameter). The log was barely starting to grow mold and fungi, but still remained mostly sterile of pathogen growth. She was in a small, round chamber with no eggs or larvae present. I am extremely eager to try and raise her, although I’m certain it won’t be without challenges. They are known to prey on only arthropod eggs, which will be difficult to constantly provide. I am gathering as much information as I can as to what nesting preferences they have. Any information is greatly appreciated.

5a538d55b7e43bef94d853c7c410cf7d.jpg

Edited by Antkeeper014, September 5 2020 - 3:55 PM.

  • Martialis, Solenoqueen, TennesseeAnts and 3 others like this

#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted September 5 2020 - 4:08 PM

NickAnter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,307 posts
  • LocationOrange County, California

Awesome!!!


  • Antkeeper014 and Antkeeper01 like this

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#3 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 5 2020 - 5:10 PM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,925 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

Very excited for this! Good luck!


  • Antkeeper014 likes this

#4 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:09 AM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
Some more pics of her, this is the best I can do without lighting

ad8315c14459b710902cdd09965b6040.jpg

6aaba805bea793518957e6252400fec4.jpg

3c9705e1486d3b3923d507c7aa6ecdc7.jpg

Anyone know what species in particular?
  • TennesseeAnts likes this

#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:15 AM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,925 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

Looks like P. crassicorne from those pics.


Edited by Ant_Dude2908, September 7 2020 - 8:16 AM.

  • Antkeeper014 likes this

#6 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:16 AM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
I’m in Massachusetts, found her in cape cod. I was thinking the same although you can’t really say for sure.

#7 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:17 AM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,925 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

I’m in Massachusetts, found her in cape cod. I was thinking the same although you can’t really say for sure.

Could you get a side view of her?


  • Antkeeper014 likes this

#8 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:20 AM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
These are the only shots I have of her side, with my phone macro lens I usually just take a video and then screenshot the best frames.

951e7c399af66cd97484d7a6af5d14aa.jpg

d55ad11ba5030f61659b19db8d9e2152.jpg

Those are the best I got. Thank you for your help.
  • TennesseeAnts likes this

#9 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:21 AM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,925 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

I would need to see the side of her abdomen. 


  • Antkeeper014 likes this

#10 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:22 AM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
I’m heading home later today, I have lighting and a white backdrop so I should be able to get some better pictures of her then.
  • TennesseeAnts likes this

#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 7 2020 - 12:45 PM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

What are you feeding her? Might be worth it to start breeding spiders.


  • Antkeeper014 likes this

#12 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 12:56 PM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
Would it be worth breeding them? I know they lay in sacks, but would they make enough to sustainably harvest from a group of spiders? I have no idea how frequently they breed

#13 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted September 7 2020 - 1:04 PM

Antkeeper01

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,392 posts
  • LocationA random state in the US

Maybe just go out into the woods or somewhere even your backyard and lift up different rocks and you might find lots of egg-sacks that happens a lot when I lift up rocks. :)


  • Antkeeper014 likes this

1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

My Youtube channel: https://www.youtube....kUjx-dPFMyVqOLw

 

 Join Our Fledgling Discord Server https://discord.com/...089056687423489


#14 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted September 7 2020 - 1:06 PM

Antkeeper01

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,392 posts
  • LocationA random state in the US

Please go to my journal so you might be able to give me advice because one of my colonies isn't eating.


1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

My Youtube channel: https://www.youtube....kUjx-dPFMyVqOLw

 

 Join Our Fledgling Discord Server https://discord.com/...089056687423489


#15 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 7 2020 - 4:16 PM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Maybe just go out into the woods or somewhere even your backyard and lift up different rocks and you might find lots of egg-sacks that happens a lot when I lift up rocks. :)

there's evidence to suggest that eggs taken have to be of a certain age, apparently very young. This is why a closely monitored supply would be ideal. You might have to harvest them shortly after being laid.


  • TennesseeAnts likes this

#16 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 4:18 PM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
If that proves to be true I will probably end up breeding them.
  • TennesseeAnts likes this

#17 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 5:33 PM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]
A shot of her unique gaster shape

7b0262f1173ef8c1251a6d11c761623c.jpg

What a cool species

#18 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 7 2020 - 5:34 PM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Looks like crassicorne.


  • TennesseeAnts and Antkeeper014 like this

#19 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 5:37 PM

Antkeeper014

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 105 posts
  • LocationMassachusetts [USA]

Looks like crassicorne.


Agreed, thank you

#20 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 7:29 PM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,925 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

Yep, looks like P. crassicorne to me as well.


  • Antkeeper014 likes this




2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users