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Not really sure what species this is? Las Vegas, NV

Started By olrakbt , Aug 22 2020 3:20 PM
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#1 Offline olrakbt - Posted August 22 2020 - 3:20 PM

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Not really sure what species this is? Las Vegas, NV

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#2 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 22 2020 - 3:26 PM

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Formica sp.


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Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

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#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 22 2020 - 3:28 PM

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What time of day did you find this?


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 22 2020 - 4:14 PM

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The shape and size of the head makes me think its a species in the rufa group. If so, she is parasitic and will need host workers.

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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
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Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#5 Offline olrakbt - Posted August 22 2020 - 5:43 PM

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What time of day did you find this?

Around 5ish pm 


What time of day did you find this?

5ish pm 


#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 22 2020 - 6:11 PM

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Well id give her some host workers or pupae since I'm almost positive she's rufa group. Read this guide: https://www.formicul...ial-on-raising-
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#7 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted August 23 2020 - 7:11 AM

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This is more likely Formica obtusopilosa. 

 

Consider taking more photos.


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#8 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 23 2020 - 10:12 AM

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This is more likely Formica obtusopilosa.

Consider taking more photos.

formica obtusopilosa is a raptiformica species, and raptiformica queens are way slimmer than this queen. She also doesn't have a clypeal notch, a characteristic of raptiformica.

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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#9 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted August 23 2020 - 11:34 AM

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This is more likely Formica obtusopilosa.

Consider taking more photos.

formica obtusopilosa is a raptiformica species, and raptiformica queens are way slimmer than this queen. She also doesn't have a clypeal notch, a characteristic of raptiformica.

 

Ah, I was unaware that F. obtusopilosa was a raptiformica.

 

Can you see the clypeal notch with these photos? I cannot see it clearly. 



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#10 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 23 2020 - 1:58 PM

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This is more likely Formica obtusopilosa.
Consider taking more photos.

formica obtusopilosa is a raptiformica species, and raptiformica queens are way slimmer than this queen. She also doesn't have a clypeal notch, a characteristic of raptiformica.
Ah, I was unaware that F. obtusopilosa was a raptiformica.
 
Can you see the clypeal notch with these photos? I cannot see it clearly.
if you look inbetween the mandibles you can see that it is straight and comes to a point. No flat area or notch. As for species I'm still positive it is rufa group, possibly formica dakotensis because of the shiny gaster and thorax.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#11 Offline rbarreto - Posted September 7 2020 - 7:31 PM

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I think this might be Myrmecocystus mimicus, olrakbt can you post more pictures?

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#12 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 7:32 PM

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I think this might be Myrmecocystus mimicus, olrakbt can you post more pictures?

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