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NickAnter's Lasius brevicornis Jounal(Worker!)

Started By NickAnter , Aug 11 2020 4:51 PM

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#1 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 11 2020 - 4:51 PM

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I caught this queen today, under a large stone, just a few feet from a creek, and at first thought she was usual niger group, until I saw here brilliant orange legs, and a slightly yellowish underside of her gaster. This species has been a dream of mine since I started getting into the hobby two years ago. So, as you can imagine, I was estatic when I found this queen. Here are two pictures:


Edited by NickAnter, April 3 2022 - 8:47 PM.

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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#2 Offline BlueLance213 - Posted August 11 2020 - 5:32 PM

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Gonna be honest, now I am doubting if the ants I have are Flavus or not, our queens don't look the same, but mines defo has orange workers. Now I am wishing I didn't let them dig into a tube with soil so I can double check I'm not going crazy :P

Good Luck though!


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#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 11 2020 - 6:00 PM

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If they have orange workers they are flavus.
I guess its possible these are neoniger, but I didn't think they had a yellowish sheen on the umderside of their gaster.
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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline Antkid12 - Posted August 12 2020 - 4:51 AM

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So jealous!!! 


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#5 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 12 2020 - 6:11 AM

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These are quite common in forested areas here. Glad you managed to find one! Good luck.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 12 2020 - 10:47 AM

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These are quite common in forested areas here. Glad you managed to find one! Good luck.


Thanks! I've never seen workers of these in person, so I can't wait.
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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#7 Offline CatsnAnts - Posted August 12 2020 - 12:38 PM

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I think L. flavus is smaller than L. neoniger and L. niger, similar to L. alienus.

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#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 12 2020 - 12:42 PM

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alienus is european, americanus is its sister species of North America. I have americanus, and she is about that size. Neoniger are about the same.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#9 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 12 2020 - 12:44 PM

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Actually, having just caught a Lasius cf. americanus, this queen is bulkier, and overall more yellowish. I'm now 90% sure she is brevicornis/flavus.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#10 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted August 13 2020 - 5:37 AM

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Actually, having just caught a Lasius cf. americanus, this queen is bulkier, and overall more yellowish. I'm now 90% sure she is brevicornis/flavus.

She's most likely L. brevicornis.


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#11 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 13 2020 - 6:36 AM

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Excellent! Just have to wait like 7 or 8 months and she'll have workers.
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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#12 Offline TechAnt - Posted August 13 2020 - 6:48 AM

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7 to 8 MONTHS?
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#13 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 13 2020 - 6:56 AM

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Two months until hibernation, 4 months of hibernation, and about 2 months until workers. Unless she is an oddball and gets workers before hibernation, which I doubt.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#14 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 13 2020 - 7:15 AM

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Two months until hibernation, 4 months of hibernation, and about 2 months until workers. Unless she is an oddball and gets workers before hibernation, which i doubt.

Probably will be similar story for my Aphaenogaster queen unfortunately. I wish that they would lay before hibernation.

#15 Offline BlueLance213 - Posted August 16 2020 - 7:24 AM

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I mean mine were only caught recently and have been laying eggs, I think you might get nanitics out of them before hibernation


#16 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 22 2020 - 5:18 PM

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I mean mine were only caught recently and have been laying eggs, I think you might get nanitics out of them before hibernation

Most Formicine ants who fly in the summer in the area of the Sierras these were caught wait until after hibernation to lay eggs.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#17 Offline TechAnt - Posted August 22 2020 - 5:50 PM

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Two months until hibernation, 4 months of hibernation, and about 2 months until workers. Unless she is an oddball and gets workers before hibernation, which i doubt.


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(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#18 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 23 2020 - 2:57 PM

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Two months until hibernation, 4 months of hibernation, and about 2 months until workers. Unless she is an oddball and gets workers before hibernation, which i doubt.

Probably will be similar story for my Aphaenogaster queen unfortunately. I wish that they would lay before hibernation.
Nevermind, she laid eggs. Hopefully your Lasius queen does too.

#19 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 23 2020 - 3:19 PM

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Two months until hibernation, 4 months of hibernation, and about 2 months until workers. Unless she is an oddball and gets workers before hibernation, which i doubt.

Probably will be similar story for my Aphaenogaster queen unfortunately. I wish that they would lay before hibernation.
Nevermind, she laid eggs. Hopefully your Lasius queen does too.

 

Thanks! And good luck to you as well.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#20 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 26 2020 - 9:15 AM

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She has eggs!!! I didn't notice, as they are underneath her, on the cotton. Hopefully she will get workers before hibernation.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

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