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#1 Offline Elraen - Posted May 3 2015 - 11:07 PM

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Hi guys,

 

I found this colony yesterday. Workers are really small but the other guys ? They might be queens ? And if they are queens, how its possible to live together in same house ?

 

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#2 Offline drtrmiller - Posted May 4 2015 - 12:21 AM

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No idea where you're located, but it looks like Polyrhachis.

 

Too little information to say very much with any certainty.


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#3 Offline dspdrew - Posted May 4 2015 - 4:32 AM

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Try putting some of the information mentioned in this post.

 

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Pictures alone are usually not enough to get a proper ID.



#4 Offline Ants4fun - Posted May 4 2015 - 4:36 AM

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Looks like Paratrechina to me.

#5 Offline Ants4fun - Posted May 4 2015 - 4:37 AM

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Maybe Paratrechina longicornis

#6 Offline Miles - Posted May 4 2015 - 5:41 AM

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I'd vote for southern european Formica. Regardless, we really need better pictures to even have a confirmation on the genus.


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#7 Offline Elraen - Posted May 4 2015 - 12:56 PM

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I'm from Turkey - istanbul.. What you guys think about bigger ants ? queens ?


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#8 Offline dspdrew - Posted May 4 2015 - 1:04 PM

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If you're asking about the two larger ones, yes, those are definitely queens.



#9 Offline James C. Trager - Posted May 4 2015 - 1:05 PM

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Certainly Paratrechina longicornis. This is just a small fragment of their supercolony, containing many more queens than these two. It is not uncommon for some ant species (a larage minority of the 1000s of different kinds of ants) to have more than one queen in a colony. 


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#10 Offline Elraen - Posted May 4 2015 - 1:32 PM

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Ouv that's cool, thank you guys.


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#11 Offline Ants4fun - Posted May 4 2015 - 2:15 PM

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Yes I was right!
I know since I found them a lot in Costa Rica.

Edited by Ants4fun, May 5 2015 - 10:46 AM.


#12 Offline Forestflamboyant - Posted May 4 2015 - 5:51 PM

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Howdy! So do you know how to identify queens. It doesn't always go by size and you have to examine the middle area of the thorax. It's usually longer which had wings attached and the muscles for flight. This is also how queens can live such a long time without eating for their first nanitics workers. Keeping this in mind will help you to identify future queens from other species. Hope this also helps!!  



#13 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted May 5 2015 - 10:24 AM

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I am not sure there are Paratrechina longicornis in Turkey. I think these might be Lepisiota dolabellae.

Here's a list of ant species in Turkey: http://www.google.bg....92291466,d.ZGU


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#14 Offline Ants4fun - Posted May 5 2015 - 10:47 AM

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They are an invasive species...

#15 Offline Ants4fun - Posted May 5 2015 - 10:54 AM

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Definitely Paratrechina longicornis.

Edited by Ants4fun, May 5 2015 - 1:12 PM.


#16 Offline James C. Trager - Posted May 5 2015 - 12:50 PM

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Notwithstanding Ants4fun's certainty, I think Jonathan21700's Lepisiota suggestion is certainly believable. I'd like to see more magnified pictures clearly showing the workers' thorax structure to be sure, but now that he mentions it, and on reexamination of the lower left individual of the first photo, I do think I can see the characteristic Lepisiota  bifurcate propodeum.

Not sure about the species, though. Could be L. frauenfeldi.


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#17 Offline Ants4fun - Posted May 5 2015 - 1:16 PM

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Excuse my certainty. All the pics of Lepisiota I saw looked nothing like this, however I guess I should let every possibility without better pictures.




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