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#1 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:46 PM

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Hey guys,

Ok, so I have a formica colony, and for the past week or so, there has been this white ant all curled up. They look like they just came out of the cocoon Stage, but why haven’t they changed colors and become an ant yet? Because it has been 7 days plus??? All answers are appreciated, thank you.


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#2 Offline Broncos - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:49 PM

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Hey guys,
Ok, so I have a formica colony, and for the past week or so, there has been this white ant all curled up. They look like they just came out of the cocoon Stage, but why haven’t they changed colors and become an ant yet? Because it has been 7 days plus??? All answers are appreciated, thank you.

It takes ants a while to harden their exoskeletons. Mine took 2 weeks


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#3 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:53 PM

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Ok, so were they taken out of their cocoons early then? Because I have just seen them go from cocoon to worker.


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#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:53 PM

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You mean 'callows'.


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#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:53 PM

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Probably an opened pupa. Formica pupae are opened up by the workers before they become adult ants. They will transform from a pale white to dull brown and then finally emerge as a callow.
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#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:54 PM

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Could be a pupae that never spun a cocoon.
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#7 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:55 PM

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Could be a pupae that never spun a cocoon.

No, I've seen them. They did spin cocoons. I second Manitobant's statement. 


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#8 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:57 PM

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They were in cocoons before they came out white.


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#9 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 19 2020 - 1:59 PM

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They were in cocoons before they came out white.

As mentioned above, they are still technically pupae; the workers just removed the cocoons. This is common practice with Formica. When I started keeping Camponotus I was shocked to find they had no callows, but fully hardened workers emerged right out of the cocoons. No wonder why their life cycle takes so much longer.  :facepalm:


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#10 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted August 19 2020 - 2:01 PM

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They were in cocoons before they came out white.

As mentioned above, they are still technically pupae; the workers just removed the cocoons. This is common practice with Formica. When I started keeping Camponotus I was shocked to find they had no callows, but fully hardened workers emerged right out of the cocoons. No wonder why their life cycle takes so much longer.  :facepalm:

 

Ok, that makes sense, thank you. Yeah :lol:


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#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted August 19 2020 - 2:07 PM

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They were in cocoons before they came out white.

As mentioned above, they are still technically pupae; the workers just removed the cocoons. This is common practice with Formica. When I started keeping Camponotus I was shocked to find they had no callows, but fully hardened workers emerged right out of the cocoons. No wonder why their life cycle takes so much longer.  :facepalm:

 

But they do have callows... every ant does, by definition.


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#12 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted August 19 2020 - 6:24 PM

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They were in cocoons before they came out white.

As mentioned above, they are still technically pupae; the workers just removed the cocoons. This is common practice with Formica. When I started keeping Camponotus I was shocked to find they had no callows, but fully hardened workers emerged right out of the cocoons. No wonder why their life cycle takes so much longer.  :facepalm:

 

But they do have callows... every ant does, by definition.

 

Yeah, it's just that the difference in color isn't as big as in other species.
 


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#13 Offline Temperateants - Posted August 27 2020 - 6:33 AM

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Ok, so were they taken out of their cocoons early then? Because I have just seen them go from cocoon to worker.

Formica are weird.  My colony opened a perfectly good coccoon and let the pupae develop naked. It was fine. 


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