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#1 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted February 28 2020 - 4:07 PM

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Where we discuss our favorite (or not) invasives!
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#2 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted February 28 2020 - 7:52 PM

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I guess Tetras are pretty efficient and as per discussion in other threads, they act fairly intelligently in general. That helps explain their success I suppose.

They are very quick to rescue lost brood and they aren't quite as picky about their food as my other ants have been. I'm still impressed by how one of them went on a personal brood-rescuing mission and single-mindedly accomplished her goal. She was very focused.

 

I didn't realize they sting, but apparently it's not a bad sting.

 

My Tetramorium in a mini-hearth has by far the most workers of any of my colonies. My other Tetramorium colony (seller mistook them for Veromessor) was doing well until I accidentally dehydrated them, killing half their workers.

 

They ARE small and they are good at escaping.


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Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 28 2020 - 8:16 PM

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Cool. I love keeping these ants. They’re the only ants I’ve kept that always do what I expect them to do for their survival.

Mine have done best either in tub and tubes set ups or plain dirt. They love moving around sand, so definitely provide sand or other substrate. They don’t like light in their nests, so keep them covered and don’t peek in on them all the time. Feed them a lot, but beware, their numbers can get out of hand pretty quickly. Luckily, they’re easy to contain since they are such poor climbers.

I’ve also noticed their numbers declining in my yard for some reason. I found WAY less queens this year.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#4 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted February 28 2020 - 10:54 PM

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Cool. I love keeping these ants. They’re the only ants I’ve kept that always do what I expect them to do for their survival.
Mine have done best either in tub and tubes set ups or plain dirt. They love moving around sand, so definitely provide sand or other substrate. They don’t like light in their nests, so keep them covered and don’t peek in on them all the time. Feed them a lot, but beware, their numbers can get out of hand pretty quickly. Luckily, they’re easy to contain since they are such poor climbers.
I’ve also noticed their numbers declining in my yard for some reason. I found WAY less queens this year.


Must mean your garden is helping the natives ants. (y)
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#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 29 2020 - 3:24 AM

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Yeah, I think you’re right. Crematogaster had a massive boom, so they may be whacking them back.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#6 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 29 2020 - 9:34 AM

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I don't know what I'll do next! I might try to keep either Tetra, Lasius or Mymerieca (I think that's how it's spelled), but defiantly some good choices!


There is a important time for everything, important place for everyone, an important person for everybody, and an important ant for each and every ant keeper and myrmecologist alike


#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 29 2020 - 9:42 AM

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I don't know what I'll do next! I might try to keep either Tetra, Lasius or Mymerieca (I think that's how it's spelled), but defiantly some good choices!

Put it in the hands of Mother Nature; keep whatever you find next.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#8 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 29 2020 - 9:49 AM

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Sounds like a plan! Sometimes I wish I could be as wise as ANTdrew, it seems like he knows all the answers The Dude doesn't...


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#9 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 29 2020 - 9:54 AM

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Lol, thanks. Just set your alarm clock because these gals fly early!
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#10 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 29 2020 - 10:01 AM

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I would bet, since they're all not a huge fan of light...


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#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 29 2020 - 10:05 AM

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I don't have tetras here, somehow. Everywhere else I go seems to be bursting with them though.



#12 Offline NickAnter - Posted February 29 2020 - 10:13 AM

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Here in SoCal they are non-existent. I saw one colony, and it got wiped out by Argentines.


Edited by NickAnter, February 29 2020 - 10:56 AM.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#13 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 29 2020 - 10:52 AM

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yikes


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#14 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted February 29 2020 - 4:02 PM

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Here there's a nice balance. Lasius and Formica tyrannically dominate, and Tetramorium get shoved into nice little corners and never get to leave. There they can fight their wars and found new colonies without being pushed around.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#15 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted February 29 2020 - 4:08 PM

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Sounds like a plan! Sometimes I wish I could be as wise as ANTdrew, it seems like he knows all the answers The Dude doesn't...

That's cuz he's my appretentice, and learns from my failures better than I can...  :lol:


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#16 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted February 29 2020 - 4:20 PM

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And it appears he's taken on a few apprentices of his own. I sure feel I've learned a lot from him.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#17 Offline Mdrogun - Posted February 29 2020 - 4:35 PM

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Am I the only one here that hates Tetramorium immigrans with a passion? They are invasive, generic, and uninteresting. A lot of what fuels my hatred is that they edge out native ants that are really, really cool. Like the Pheidole pilifera-group spp., and many species I'll never know they edge out.

 

Maybe I'd be on board the Tetra train if they grew faster, but even then it's not substantially faster than some of our natives, and in specific cases, slower than some native ants.


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Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


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Am I the only one here that hates Tetramorium immigrans with a passion? They are invasive, generic, and uninteresting. A lot of what fuels my hatred is that they edge out native ants that are really, really cool. Like the Pheidole pilifera-group spp., and many species I'll never know they edge out.

 

Maybe I'd be on board the Tetra train if they grew faster, but even then it's not substantially faster than some of our natives, and in specific cases, slower than some native ants.

Nope. I feel the same.



#19 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted February 29 2020 - 5:06 PM

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Am I the only one here that hates Tetramorium immigrans with a passion? They are invasive, generic, and uninteresting. A lot of what fuels my hatred is that they edge out native ants that are really, really cool. Like the Pheidole pilifera-group spp., and many species I'll never know they edge out.
 
Maybe I'd be on board the Tetra train if they grew faster, but even then it's not substantially faster than some of our natives, and in specific cases, slower than some native ants.

I might jump off the Tetra train if my natives were being affected. However, as I said before, there’s a nice balance between them and the natives. There’s simply too many Lasius and Formica completely dominating the area for them to have a chance of total invasion and destruction of the native ecosystem.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#20 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 29 2020 - 5:20 PM

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Sounds like a plan! Sometimes I wish I could be as wise as ANTdrew, it seems like he knows all the answers The Dude doesn't...

That's cuz he's my appretentice, and learns from my failures better than I can...  :lol:

 

lol, falurie does lead to success however


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