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#1 Offline LiMike - Posted August 6 2020 - 4:41 PM

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Heyi Guys, I believe this little one to be a Lasius Umbratus but not sure. I found her and added some Lasius niger workers. She excepted the workers (I only put in 4) From what I could tell she killed one and used her pheromone to trick the others.  I have about 5 other lasius parasitic queens and they have done the same thing. All excepting the workers but no eggs. This little lady decided to lay some eggs even before I had a chance to add more workers. This is why I am questioning this queen being umbratus? (she produced eggs to easy) She is also very protective of her eggs. She doesn't want to walk away from them for anything

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Please excuse the first pic from the side view as my test tube seems to have some scratches from being carried around in my pocket until I found a queen for it.
 

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#2 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 6 2020 - 5:47 PM

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Lasius aphidicola. Lasius umbratus is European. They look identical though.

#3 Offline LiMike - Posted August 6 2020 - 6:36 PM

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Lasius aphidicola. Lasius umbratus is European. They look identical though.

Thank you very much Kaelwizard, I appreciate you identifying this queen for me!! So she is Lasius! She took to the lasius niger so fast and before I knew it she had eggs. I didn't want to introduce any more workers. I was afraid they would attack or at the very least stress her out. 

I have other parasitic Lasius that have excepted workers but no eggs yet. 

Thanks again 

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#4 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 7 2020 - 8:17 AM

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I believe they normally don’t lay eggs until they are with hosts for a year, or at least until after they hibernate once with hosts, but I may be wrong.
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#5 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted August 7 2020 - 9:42 AM

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I believe they normally don’t lay eggs until they are with hosts for a year, or at least until after they hibernate once with hosts, but I may be wrong.

Not for a whole year, no. They usually lay in a few weeks of accepting hosts.


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#6 Offline LiMike - Posted August 7 2020 - 11:04 AM

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Thank you very much guys I appreciate you getting back to me on this. I have been feeding them as if they were a colony 2-3 times a week. From what I understand the queen does not have any fat storage to live off. how often should I feed them or should I leave them alone for two weeks
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#7 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted August 7 2020 - 11:48 AM

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Thank you very much guys I appreciate you getting back to me on this. I have been feeding them as if they were a colony 2-3 times a week. From what I understand the queen does not have any fat storage to live off. how often should I feed them or should I leave them alone for two weeks
Thanks again!!

I feed my parasitic Lasius colonies twice a week. 


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#8 Offline LiMike - Posted August 7 2020 - 2:01 PM

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Thank you Anthony, I appreciate your response. Do you do one feeding protein and the other sugar carbs? I usually try and do 2 protein 1 sugar carb.

#9 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted August 7 2020 - 2:23 PM

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I typically do both twice a week, at the same time.


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#10 Offline LiMike - Posted August 7 2020 - 2:33 PM

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Thank you very much Anthony. How long did it take your parasitic lasius to start laying eggs after excepting workers?



#11 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted August 7 2020 - 6:33 PM

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Thank you very much Anthony. How long did it take your parasitic lasius to start laying eggs after excepting workers?

I think it was 3-5weeks. You can see my Parasitic Lasius journal that should be linked in my signature below.



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