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San Diego Camponotus festinatus group ID

Started By M_Ants , Jul 31 2020 8:40 AM

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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 8:40 AM

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Saw males on blacklight then found this queen

Don't think she's fertile but hopefully

She looks like a tiny fraggle queen but more orange and brown

She has large stripes on her gaster

About half an inch long

No rain just hot and humid

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Edited by M_Ants, July 31 2020 - 5:13 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#2 Offline zantezaint - Posted July 31 2020 - 8:51 AM

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I would have grabbed a male as well for captive insemination.


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4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.

#3 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 8:59 AM

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I grabbed 2. Nothings happened. They are in the test tube with her.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#4 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 31 2020 - 8:59 AM

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Probably C. festinatus.


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#5 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 31 2020 - 9:02 AM

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Nice queen.


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#6 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 9:04 AM

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If it's fertile...


Veromessor pergandei

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#7 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 9:08 AM

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Too bad it's not a fraggle.


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#8 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 9:36 AM

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Heat or sand?


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#9 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 31 2020 - 9:59 AM

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Yes and not required.


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#10 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted July 31 2020 - 11:40 AM

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This is Camponotus fragilis. C. festinatus only occurs farther east.


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#11 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 12:08 PM

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This is Camponotus fragilis. C. festinatus only occurs farther east.

Sure? 

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Edited by M_Ants, July 31 2020 - 12:28 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#12 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 12:12 PM

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Thought they were more yellow?


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#13 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 1:10 PM

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Anyone else think it's a fraggle?


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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#14 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:10 PM

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It is something in the festinatus group, I wouldn't try to get it further with photographs. Color is totally unreliable as has been said soo many times.


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#15 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:14 PM

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So YsTheAnt is wrong?

Edit: just realized fragilis is in the group.

Anything I can do to help further Id it. Better pics?


Edited by M_Ants, July 31 2020 - 3:17 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#16 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:37 PM

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Sometimes pictures only get you so far.


#17 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:38 PM

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So there's no way to tell?


Veromessor pergandei

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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

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#18 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:55 PM

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I would just stay with Camponotus festinatus group


#19 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 31 2020 - 4:00 PM

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So how do people sell C. fragilis as fragilis and not festinatus group.


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#20 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 31 2020 - 4:05 PM

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Because in many cases they have the ant in hands and have taken the time to identify it, also at times depending on where the ant was collected you can make a fairly safe educated guess.


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