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#1 Offline Domagoj - Posted July 30 2020 - 8:17 AM

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I realized that the other thread I started for the purpose of terrarium making starred to turn into a journal documenting the progress of the queens I caught, so in order to keep those two topics separate, let's see if I keep this clean.

Condensed chronology so far:

 

June 28th 2020, around 11 PM I caught 4 queens of Lasius genus, jury is still out on what specific species they are.

A week later, on July 5th 2020, around noon, I caught another one.

July 13th 2020 two queens have eggs.

July 20th 2020 all five queens have eggs.

July 30th the queen creatively named E (the fifth one caught) has larvae.

 

Latest pics of the queen E and her brood:

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Are these cocoons in the second picture?

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#2 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 30 2020 - 8:19 AM

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Awesome! Can’t wait to see how they grow.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#3 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 30 2020 - 8:28 AM

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Yes, those are pupae.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#4 Offline Domagoj - Posted July 31 2020 - 5:04 AM

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Just received my freeze dried mealworms.

Hope the ants like them. They look kind of empty, not much meat in them at all.

Is there some secret preparation recipe? Something like crush, hydrate, mix clockwise three times, pour into an dish and mix one more time counterclockwise? Or is just dropping in a few dry bits ok?



#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 31 2020 - 5:47 AM

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Your ants will need fresh mealworms chopped up. Most ants are incapable or unwilling to eat dried foods. You can, and indeed should, freeze live feeder insects to humanely kill them, prevent mites, and help with storage.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#6 Offline CatsnAnts - Posted July 31 2020 - 5:58 AM

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I use freeze-dried mealworms for my colonies, just rehydrate them for about an hour and your good to go.


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#7 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 31 2020 - 6:12 AM

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I still think a lot of the nutrients are lost in the freeze-drying process, though.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#8 Offline CatsnAnts - Posted July 31 2020 - 6:35 AM

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I still think a lot of the nutrients are lost in the freeze-drying process, though.


That’s actually false, freeze-drying anything will help to preserve the nutrients within it. The amount lost is the process is extremely small. When I rehydrate the mealworms, the inner exoskeleton/material becomes soft and the ants go crazy for it, even my wild P. tysoni colony had the entire inside carved out within a few hours. I think as long as you rehydrate it for a long enough time, it’s basically equivalent to using frozen live mealworms.

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#9 Offline Domagoj - Posted July 31 2020 - 6:43 AM

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There is still some time until first workers, but I hope they'll eat them since I'd like to avoid having a worm farm.



#10 Offline CatsnAnts - Posted July 31 2020 - 6:48 AM

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There is still some time until first workers, but I hope they'll eat them since I'd like to avoid having a worm farm.


Even if the freeze-dried mealworms don’t work, you can always just buy a bunch of live one’s and freeze them, no need to raise them. However, I recommend that you buy crickets over mealworms next time. I made that mistake too.

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#11 Offline Domagoj - Posted July 31 2020 - 7:26 AM

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I've got some freeze dried blood worms and freeze dried larvae of chironomid midges on order, so I can test if those work.

If not, I will buy live, but hope these will do. They seem to be much easier to store and handle.



#12 Offline Domagoj - Posted August 4 2020 - 11:32 AM

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Unfortunately, there has been a death in the ranks.

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I was worried when I first caught her as her wing tips were a bit damaged and seemed wrong. Looking at these pictures, I now wonder if she was already ill when I caught her.

There was not much mold in the test tube, but under this sort of magnification it seems as if her entire thorax is filled with mold. Makes me sad to think she suffered like this.

 

As for other four queens, E looks fine and her brood is plentiful,the others are not nearly as far along.



#13 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 4 2020 - 11:53 AM

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Fruit flies are excellent food. And most flies in general. My Lasius go nuts over flies of any kind, but arent the biggest fans of mealworms.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#14 Offline BlueLance213 - Posted August 4 2020 - 12:08 PM

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Yeah, I have Lasius Flavus and they readily abduct any fruit flies I give them, I would assume that these will probably follow a similar nature, so far its given me no mess to clean up either which is grand.

 

Good luck with the colony



#15 Offline Domagoj - Posted August 11 2020 - 9:45 AM

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Nanitics!  :yahoo:

One appears to be fully eclosed, another one looks like is in the process of emerging. The first one is already dark, the second one is starting to get her color.

They are absolutely tiny.


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#16 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 11 2020 - 10:18 AM

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Cheers!
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#17 Offline Antkid12 - Posted August 11 2020 - 2:26 PM

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Pics?


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 


#18 Offline Domagoj - Posted August 11 2020 - 9:01 PM

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Here you go.

It turns out there are three of the tiny ones.

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Poor image, but good enough for head count.

 

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One a bit clearer, but only two in frame. Mom's head for scale.

They seem to already be busy taking care of the brood.


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#19 Offline Domagoj - Posted August 12 2020 - 9:23 AM

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So, I connected the test tube with the small foraging area, and since the test tube is no longer under the cardboard box, I wrapped the test tube in aluminium foil. Hope that's dark enough and not too much light is leaking though the connection. The room they are in is usually fairly dark itself.

 

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A few honey drops to reward the brave nanitics that dare to venture into the vastness of a petri dish.

I also made preparation for a nest that will be the next stage, but the connecting tube is blocked for now. The decision regarding the timing for the expansion is something I'll rely on you guys to help decide, but prep work is done.

 

Now I need to cook some dinner for both myself and the little ones.



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Awesome!
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen




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