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Posted July 27 2020 - 2:52 PM
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Caught these along the edge of a canal with Devi
7-8 mm
Plains habitat
Nuptial flight at 4:00 pm
Red with extremely skinny waist
Drones are black with red gaster
Are they fully claustral?
Can there be colonies with multiple queens?
Thanks for your help!
Co-owner and founder of Mountain Myrmeculture and The Menagerie Discord Server.
Ants I have:
1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers
1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers
1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers
1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood
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Posted July 27 2020 - 2:53 PM
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It looks like solenopsis, but I did the sting test and they definetly didn't sting... I thought maybe some sort of camponotus, but I think the head and coloring looks a lot different. Maybe Pheidole? It doesn't really look like that though, definetly more red than it looks in the picture.
Edited by Devi, July 27 2020 - 2:57 PM.
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Posted July 27 2020 - 3:14 PM
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It looks like solenopsis, but I did the sting test and they definetly didn't sting... I thought maybe some sort of camponotus, but I think the head and coloring looks a lot different. Maybe Pheidole? It doesn't really look like that though, definetly more red than it looks in the picture.
Be glad they didn't sting you, these have the most potent venom of all ants 
They're in the genus Pogonomyrmex. And a word of advice for future IDs, try to not rely on color so much. Pheidole are the most diverse genus of ants and they can't be IDed with just color.
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Posted July 27 2020 - 3:16 PM
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You can put them into groups, but it not all of them may survive. Most Pogonomyrmex are just pleometric if I recall, not truly polygynous. The genus does better if provided with seeds during founding, they are a grainivourus genus that will also love any insects you give them.
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Posted July 27 2020 - 3:18 PM
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It looks like solenopsis, but I did the sting test and they definetly didn't sting... I thought maybe some sort of camponotus, but I think the head and coloring looks a lot different. Maybe Pheidole? It doesn't really look like that though, definetly more red than it looks in the picture.
Be glad they didn't sting you, these have the most potent venom of all ants
I second this.
You can put them into groups, but it not all of them may survive. Most Pogonomyrmex are just pleometric if I recall, not truly polygynous. The genus does better if provided with seeds during founding, they are a grainivourus genus that will also love any insects you give them.
Some species, like subnitidus, are polygynous.
"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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Posted July 27 2020 - 3:19 PM
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It looks like solenopsis, but I did the sting test and they definetly didn't sting... I thought maybe some sort of camponotus, but I think the head and coloring looks a lot different. Maybe Pheidole? It doesn't really look like that though, definetly more red than it looks in the picture.
Be glad they didn't sting you, these have the most potent venom of all ants
I third this.
Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp. possibly infertile 
, Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi! 
Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen
Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii
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Posted July 27 2020 - 3:26 PM
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Thank you guys! They look like they could be closely related to pogonomyrmex occidentalis
Edited by Spazmops, July 27 2020 - 3:31 PM.
Co-owner and founder of Mountain Myrmeculture and The Menagerie Discord Server.
Ants I have:
1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers
1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers
1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers
1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood
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Posted July 27 2020 - 3:33 PM
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Thanks guys! Appreciate the help. 
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Posted July 27 2020 - 3:42 PM
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Thanks guys! Appreciate the help.
Do you have two accounts on the forum?
Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp. possibly infertile , Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!
Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen
Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii
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Posted July 27 2020 - 4:17 PM
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Thanks guys! Appreciate the help.
Do you have two accounts on the forum?
I do not. That’s my friend Devi, he was anting with me and caught quite a few ants himself. We decided I should make the post though because we didn’t need two.
Co-owner and founder of Mountain Myrmeculture and The Menagerie Discord Server.
Ants I have:
1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers
1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers
1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers
1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood
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Posted July 28 2020 - 3:30 AM
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Oh, ok.
Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp. possibly infertile , Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!
Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen
Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii
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