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Tucson, AZ 7-24-20 #3


Best Answer Zeiss , July 24 2020 - 12:56 PM

Most likely Novomessor cockerelli.

 

They're fully claustral and should be fine in a tube.

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#1 Offline BroJack - Posted July 24 2020 - 12:25 PM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: Tucson, AZ, S Mission Rd.
2. Date of collection: 7-24-20
3. Habitat of collection: desert roadside
4. Length (from head to gaster): 11-12mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: brown/red throughout Forward gaster lighter red moving to dark.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Relatively long/spindly legs
7. Distinguishing behavior: No nesting behavior observed. Just moving along on side of road.
8. Nest description:

9. Nuptial flight time and date: morning after first real monsoon rains of the season 7-24-20

 

Questions:

ID?

fully claustral or semi?

Is there anything else I should be posting or asking?

Can I use regular test tube set-ups for these ladies?

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#2 Offline Zeiss - Posted July 24 2020 - 12:56 PM   Best Answer

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Most likely Novomessor cockerelli.

 

They're fully claustral and should be fine in a tube.



#3 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 24 2020 - 12:56 PM

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You might want to add sand.


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#4 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 24 2020 - 1:09 PM

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honestly looks a little bulky for novomessor cockerelli and novomessor in general, but there's nothing else it could be except that genus.



#5 Offline VoidElecent - Posted July 24 2020 - 2:51 PM

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MyrmecosustusAcromyrmex, and Novomessor in one day? Doesn't get much better than this—I'd give an arm and a leg for N. cockerelli.


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#6 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 24 2020 - 2:53 PM

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Yup, Novomessor. Its that time of the year in that part of the country.



#7 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 24 2020 - 6:53 PM

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I'd give a lot for all those queens if I were in the same state.


My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#8 Offline BroJack - Posted July 26 2020 - 1:07 PM

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I have over 50 of these so far and if you are in AZ, I am willing to trade for knowledge and coaching. I've been doing this seriously for 3 years and am still very much a beginner. I have only had my own success with Camponotus so far.

I have passed up several of these queens while out hunting because I have so many. I never imagined myself in a position of passing up queens.



#9 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 26 2020 - 3:24 PM

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I wonder if these are polygynous. If so, you could keep them in groups. If no one here knows, you could just try putting two together, since you have so many.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#10 Offline Zeiss - Posted July 26 2020 - 5:23 PM

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I wouldn't keep them together.  I do not believe they are polygynous.






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