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Tucson, AZ 7-24-20 #1


Best Answer ponerinecat , July 24 2020 - 1:03 PM

Fully claus, like all Myrmecocystus, and don't try to pleo them, as Myrmecocystus tend to be sensitive overall. It's better to have a backup than put all your bets on a pleo group.

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#1 Offline BroJack - Posted July 24 2020 - 11:43 AM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: Tucson, AZ, S Mission Rd.
2. Date of collection: 7-24-20
3. Habitat of collection: desert roadside
4. Length (from head to gaster): 10-11mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: red head and thorax, darker gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: 
7. Distinguishing behavior: these two were digging a hole together and I found another set together but most were digging solo.
8. Nest description: nuptial chamber just started, single small hole.

9. Nuptial flight time and date: morning after first real monsoon rains of the season 7-24-20

 

Questions:

ID?

fully claustral or semi?

Do you think I can keep these two together given the fact that they were digging together?

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#2 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 24 2020 - 11:53 AM

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Pretty sure they are Myrmecocystus fully claustral and I'm pretty sure they are Pleometrotic.


Edited by Antkid12, July 24 2020 - 11:53 AM.

Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 


#3 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 24 2020 - 11:55 AM

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If their Myrmecoystus, YOU ARE SO LUCKYYYY!

They look fully claustral based on the bulky body size, I advise you split them up. Best of luck on them.

Edited by TechAnt, July 24 2020 - 11:56 AM.

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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#4 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 24 2020 - 12:21 PM

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LUCKY!!!!!!!!!


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#5 Offline Zeiss - Posted July 24 2020 - 12:49 PM

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Myrmecocystus sp.  

 

Separate them as they will kill each other eventually.  They are fully claustral.



#6 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 24 2020 - 1:03 PM   Best Answer

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Fully claus, like all Myrmecocystus, and don't try to pleo them, as Myrmecocystus tend to be sensitive overall. It's better to have a backup than put all your bets on a pleo group.



#7 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 24 2020 - 2:07 PM

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I just looked for myrmecocystus sp. for a week and found zilch, you are very lucky to have caught 2. Nice job!

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 


#8 Offline BroJack - Posted July 26 2020 - 1:04 PM

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I have 6 of these so far and if you are in AZ, I am willing to trade for knowledge and coaching. I've been doing this seriously for 3 years and am still very much a beginner. I have only had my own success with Camponotus so far.



#9 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 26 2020 - 3:25 PM

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I have 6 of these so far and if you are in AZ, I am willing to trade for knowledge and coaching. I've been doing this seriously for 3 years and am still very much a beginner. I have only had my own success with Camponotus so far.

I believe he is in CA, unfortunately.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#10 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 26 2020 - 3:31 PM

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I have 6 of these so far and if you are in AZ, I am willing to trade for knowledge and coaching. I've been doing this seriously for 3 years and am still very much a beginner. I have only had my own success with Camponotus so far.

I believe he is in CA, unfortunately.
Colorado actually, we have Myrmecocystus mexicanus in the southern parts. It’s still unfortunate though, they’re such cool ants.
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Co-owner and founder of Mountain Myrmeculture and The Menagerie Discord Server

Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 





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