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Myrmecocystus Management

Started By TechAnt , Jul 22 2020 9:04 AM

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#21 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 23 2020 - 10:24 AM

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Here in the rio grande national forest in southern Colorado, we got a massive storm but I just went anting and found nothing. Any tips?

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#22 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 24 2020 - 9:16 AM

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How soon after?


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#23 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 24 2020 - 2:53 PM

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About 30 minutes after. I’m not there any more, I was on vacation, but I’d still like to hear what I did wrong.

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#24 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 24 2020 - 3:02 PM

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30 minutes after a storm is a bit soon.


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#25 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 24 2020 - 3:05 PM

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Nuts. Thank you though!

Co-owner and founder of Mountain Myrmeculture and The Menagerie Discord Server. 

Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#26 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 24 2020 - 3:06 PM

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Yeah. I'm guessing stuff flew the next couple of days.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#27 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 24 2020 - 3:18 PM

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At least I saw a lasius niger flight and caught 5 of those

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#28 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 25 2020 - 4:43 AM

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At least I saw a lasius niger flight and caught 5 of those

Well, probably not Lasius niger itself, but probably something close.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#29 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 25 2020 - 6:32 AM

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Yeah, probably

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#30 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 25 2020 - 8:53 AM

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Yes, probably americanus or something similar as AntsDakota said. I believe Lasius niger is a very rare species in the U.S. and are not that common.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#31 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 25 2020 - 10:48 AM

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L. niger is European. Probably L. neoniger.
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#32 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 22 2020 - 8:17 AM

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Anybody want to revive this thread?


My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#33 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted September 22 2020 - 8:24 AM

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yes even though I don't have honey pots


1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

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#34 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 22 2020 - 2:52 PM

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Yes pots are awesome!


Veromessor pergandei

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Various Pheidole

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#35 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 23 2020 - 12:18 PM

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I'm thinking of adding another outworld to my M. testaceus set-up so I can feed them better. Any thoughts about this, or should I try the risky move of adding fresh fluon (which is toxic to ants) and hopefully have no worker deaths and hoping the fluon actually is applied effectively. I'm guessing option one would be better, and I will be sure to add a lot-lot of fluon for the new outworld so these crazy little ants don't overrun it again. (if you want more context why I am thinking about this, read my journal)


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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#36 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 23 2020 - 12:48 PM

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Do yours forage 24-7? Mine are hardly ever out. Teach me your ways... Anyhow, can't you plug the entrance with cotton really quick?


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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#37 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 23 2020 - 12:59 PM

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Do yours forage 24-7? Mine are hardly ever out. Teach me your ways... Anyhow, can't you plug the entrance with cotton really quick?

Afternoon and early morning, that's just their habit. I would block it with cotton but that would equal squishing a worker, they always have a worker sitting at the entrance, half of its body outside, and the other half in the tubing. I never have seen a worker not there. 


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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#38 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 23 2020 - 1:19 PM

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Plug it slowly. If it's chilling in the tube then just put the cotton in the way so it can't get out. My guess is that it would run away down into the nest and then you put the cotton all the way in. If not and it runs into the nest catch the lone worker with an aspirator or something. Then when your done with the fluon just put it back in.


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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#39 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted September 23 2020 - 1:28 PM

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You should have put fluon in the outworld before you put the ants in


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#40 Offline SleepyAsianAnter - Posted September 23 2020 - 1:43 PM

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You can try talc powder, I find it works pretty well, and it's safe for ants assuming they don't try to drink the alcohol.


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