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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 17 2020 - 8:55 PM

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I'm wondering what camponotus species fits these requirements. Desert dwelling, slow growing, large, non-hibernating camponotus. 


Veromessor pergandei

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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

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#2 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 17 2020 - 9:08 PM

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Two words that is the exact description of the ants your thinking about: CAMPONOTUS SEMITESTACEUS.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#3 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 17 2020 - 9:24 PM

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Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I find the majors super creepy.


I'm hoping somehow there might be another species fitting that description?


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#4 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 17 2020 - 9:34 PM

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Or is there a different color variety?


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Various Pheidole

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#5 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 17 2020 - 10:20 PM

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There is a yellow/black variety. Which don’t look that creepy, drew keeps those, so do I.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#6 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 17 2020 - 10:21 PM

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Do you have majors?


Veromessor pergandei

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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#7 Offline JenC - Posted July 17 2020 - 10:57 PM

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What is your definition of slow growing?

#8 Offline dspdrew - Posted July 18 2020 - 9:04 AM

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There is a species a few of us have kept that we suspect is C. ocreatus (even though it didn't key out to that for me), and it grows pretty slow in my experience. I don't think C. semitestaceus is a desert species. I've found them in desert scrub areas near mountains, but not way out in the desert. Plus, every C. semitestaceus colony I have had grew really fast.



#9 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 18 2020 - 9:06 AM

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Huh, this may be just how I keep them, but mine grow fairly slow.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#10 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 18 2020 - 9:14 AM

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What is your definition of slow growing?

Idk. Just slower than something like c. fragilis.


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Veromessor andrei

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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about


#11 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 18 2020 - 10:44 AM

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I would say just wait till next year and find some of the coastal vicinus near you.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#12 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 18 2020 - 10:55 AM

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Vicinus grow around the same speed or faster than fragilis I think.






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