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Questions about Anting in San Diego


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#1 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 17 2020 - 8:19 PM

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Hey, once again as a new ant keeper (relatively) I need some advice from a Formiculture. Specifically the ant keepers on the forum in San Diego, I only have these three questions:

What are some of the common species in San Diego?

Is Anting in places like Balboa park a good place to look / is it legal?

I was thinking about going up in the hills to Cuyamaca Rancho State Park, any thoughts.

I’d appreciate it a lot if you experts in San Diego helped out, it would mean a lot, thanks!
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#2 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 17 2020 - 8:44 PM

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I'm no expert but there are lot's of harvester colonies at sweetwater river trail.


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#3 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 17 2020 - 9:06 PM

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I'm no expert but there are lot's of harvester colonies at sweetwater river trail.


I looked it up and it says it’s closed, but I will see if there’s any way I could go near it. Thanks!
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#4 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 17 2020 - 9:07 PM

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Probably no flights now but a while back I found veromessor andrei.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 18 2020 - 6:29 AM

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I don't think you can legally collect at a state park.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#6 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 18 2020 - 9:02 AM

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I don't think you can legally collect at a state park.


I thought that was only for National Parks / Wildlife Reserves, no?
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#7 Offline dspdrew - Posted July 18 2020 - 9:14 AM

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It will likely be illegal to collect in any parks, city, county, state, or national. Just go to national forest or BLM land. I think some of the places we go to in the desert are also probably private property, but it's not fenced or maintained, and has no signs. So while you technically should have permission, I highly doubt the land owners care much. As a matter of fact, I know some of them don't care because we have ended up talking to them sometimes.


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#8 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 18 2020 - 9:18 AM

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Thanks drew, glad I know now then getting a talk from security or something.

Edited by TechAnt, July 18 2020 - 9:19 AM.

My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#9 Offline Mdrogun - Posted July 22 2020 - 7:01 PM

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I think some of the places we go to in the desert are also probably private property, but it's not fenced or maintained, and has no signs. So while you technically should have permission, I highly doubt the land owners care much.

This is a state-by-state thing, but I know that in Illinois if it is not clearly posted that the land you are entering is private property, or somebody's residence, you cannot be prosecuted for entering it. The land owners could come out and ask you to leave, which you would be required to do, but since they didn't clearly state that it was private property when you entered you have done no wrong in the eyes of the law. You will probably want to check your individual state's laws in regards to this.


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Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#10 Offline Hayashi - Posted July 22 2020 - 7:40 PM

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Check out Wayne’s World for info on ants found in San Diego county.
https://www2.palomar...ng/AntIntro.htm
There are so many great pictures and detailed information on ants specific to this area.




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