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San Diego 3 Ant Id's

Started By M_Ants , Jul 11 2020 8:56 PM

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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 8:56 PM

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7/11/2020

Local trail

Hot and Humid

molesta

These look like molesta but smaller and have marks on wings.

pheidle

Solenopsis?

Crematogaster

crematogaster?

 

Edited by M_Ants, April 3 2024 - 5:47 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#2 Offline Notorious - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:19 PM

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What part of mission trails? I was planning on checking it out tomorrow

#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:22 PM

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1. Pheidole sp.

2. Solenopsis amblychila (social parasite)

3. Crematogaster sp.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#4 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:32 PM

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What part of mission trails? I was planning on checking it out tomorrow

I went to the parking lot and hiked down the trails with all the tall grass.


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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#5 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:33 PM

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1. Pheidole sp.

2. Solenopsis amblychila (social parasite)

3. Crematogaster sp.

Wait the tiny ones are pheidole? Can I keep the Solenopsis?


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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted July 11 2020 - 10:28 PM

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1. Pheidole sp.
2. Solenopsis amblychila (social parasite)
3. Crematogaster sp.

Wait the tiny ones are pheidole? Can I keep the Solenopsis?
yes, they are pheidole, and in order to keep the solenopsis you will need to collect solenopsis xyloni pupae and possibly callows and introduce them to your queen.
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#7 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 10:36 PM

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Huh. They look like molesta to me.


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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 12 2020 - 6:48 AM

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Nope. They are probably amblychila which are parasitic.


Edited by NickAnter, July 12 2020 - 6:50 AM.

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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#9 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:46 AM

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I meant the first ones.


I agree about the other one.


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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#10 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:46 AM

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The first ones are certainly Pheidole.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#11 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:49 AM

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Oh cool. Yeah I agree now that I'm looking at them. They were swarming my flashlight and one mated on my knee.  :)


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#12 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 12 2020 - 11:53 AM

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Took some pics in case anyone can id the pheidole.


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Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#13 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted July 16 2020 - 9:25 AM

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I think those might be Temnothorax, not Pheidole.

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#14 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 16 2020 - 9:34 AM

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Don't most temnothorax have striping or patterns?


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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#15 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 16 2020 - 9:45 AM

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I need a view of the antenna. A simple antenna segment count will distinguish them.


Edited by NickAnter, July 16 2020 - 9:46 AM.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

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Edited by M_Ants, July 16 2020 - 10:02 AM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#17 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 16 2020 - 10:05 AM

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Need a lot more zoomed in than that.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#18 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 16 2020 - 10:17 AM

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They were swarming my flashlight and one mated on my knee.  :)

One time during a Solenopsis molesta/Lasius neoniger flight a Brachymyrmex depilis couple landed on my neck. Unfortunately I acted habitually, as most things landing on me are mosquitoes and flies, which are habitually slapped (and fed to my ants). I ended up injuring the queen, however she lived for a few more hours after that before dying.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#19 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 16 2020 - 10:36 AM

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Does this help? It is hard to get a picture of antennae segments. 

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Veromessor pergandei

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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#20 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 16 2020 - 10:38 AM

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Perfect. Temnothorax, with 12 antennal segments. Pheidole has 11.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

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