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Oldest camponotus colony?


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#21 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 7 2020 - 3:49 PM

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Bird poop is an easy source. Lol
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#22 Offline SuperFrank - Posted July 8 2020 - 8:42 AM

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Most Camponotus colonies I read about crap out after year two, except C. fragilis and C. floridanus. Ten years is truly remarkable.

It is theorized that they die out due to a lack of urea supplementation
How do you find urea to feed them? Just by feeding them excrement? lmao

Real talk I use pee

#23 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 8 2020 - 9:48 AM

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That’s gangsta!
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#24 Offline Serafine - Posted July 9 2020 - 6:18 AM

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Bird poop, reptile poop, pee, diesel exhaust fluid, crystallized urea from the pharmacy.

 

I use a low amount of crystallized urea in water solution (with a bit of sugar added) because I don't want my ants to drink all the crap I do (caffeine is a particular concern as it's a fairly effective insecticide, also antibiotics and other meds that could potentially kill the endosymbionts - eukaryotes are usually fairly resistant to most antibiotics but no need to take unnecessary risks).


Edited by Serafine, July 9 2020 - 6:19 AM.

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#25 Offline Boog - Posted July 9 2020 - 9:01 AM

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I'm thinking that the ants are actually looking for nitrogen for larvae development when they're using urea out in the wild when there's limited resources. If they can get it another way, then I don't think urea is necessary. Fruit fly cultures are full of nitrogenous wastes that they may provide an adequate amount of needed nitrogen as a staple feeder population. My 3 year old camponotus colony is thriving but I wonder how the colony will do once alates start showing up or it they reach a population threshold of some sort. I've been using fruit flies since their second year and I've been testing out my own culture media these last few months but of course a variety of protein sources is best. I just think fruit flies provide more than protein compared to other feeder insect options because of their life cycle in microbiotic-rich media.


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#26 Offline aznphenom - Posted July 14 2022 - 8:26 AM

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I'm thinking that the ants are actually looking for nitrogen for larvae development when they're using urea out in the wild when there's limited resources. If they can get it another way, then I don't think urea is necessary. Fruit fly cultures are full of nitrogenous wastes that they may provide an adequate amount of needed nitrogen as a staple feeder population. My 3 year old camponotus colony is thriving but I wonder how the colony will do once alates start showing up or it they reach a population threshold of some sort. I've been using fruit flies since their second year and I've been testing out my own culture media these last few months but of course a variety of protein sources is best. I just think fruit flies provide more than protein compared to other feeder insect options because of their life cycle in microbiotic-rich media.

How is this going? I am looking into providing a better diet to my camponotus. From the various research papers out there, nitrogen seems to be the end product they are trying to get. When you fruit flies are full of nitrogenous waste, what are they and what do they look like? 


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#27 Offline ZTYguy - Posted July 14 2022 - 10:43 AM

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That post is over 2 years old. Also I haven’t heard from boog in like a year
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#28 Offline NicholasP - Posted July 22 2022 - 8:47 AM

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Most Camponotus colonies I read about crap out after year two, except C. fragilis and C. floridanus. Ten years is truly remarkable.


It is theorized that they die out due to a lack of urea supplementation

 

What's urea?


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#29 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 22 2022 - 9:58 AM

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Do you really want to know?
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