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What ant species only REQUIRE seeds to eat?
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, Jun 29 2020 3:59 PM
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Posted June 29 2020 - 3:59 PM
So I was thinking about getting another colony if none of my anting trips come that successful. And I have a bunch of seeds lying around so.
What species (besides Pogomyrmex which I know only need seeds) only requires seeds to eat? I know Veromessor Pergandei’s main diet is seeds, but I hear you need to feed insects too.
What species (besides Pogomyrmex which I know only need seeds) only requires seeds to eat? I know Veromessor Pergandei’s main diet is seeds, but I hear you need to feed insects too.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen
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Posted June 30 2020 - 5:35 AM
Pogonomyrmex should also be supplemented with insects as some say they do better with them, but it is not required. I don’t think it is required with Veromessor, but is also helpful. I am no expert with these species so I would wait to here from someone who knows more, but I don’t think insects are required for any granivorous species, but they may not thrive without them.
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Posted June 30 2020 - 8:03 AM
Pretty much no ant can live off of seeds alone. It's more of an advantage among arid lands species, where insect prey is scarce and seeds are common. However they will often resort to a more predatory diet in the right habitat or when the rains bring out other ants and termites. For example the veromessor mounds here are littered with insect exoskeletons as well as seed hulls.
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Posted June 30 2020 - 8:20 AM
ponerinecat, on 30 Jun 2020 - 4:03 PM, said:
Pretty much no ant can live off of seeds alone. It's more of an advantage among arid lands species, where insect prey is scarce and seeds are common. However they will often resort to a more predatory diet in the right habitat or when the rains bring out other ants and termites. For example the veromessor mounds here are littered with insect exoskeletons as well as seed hulls.
Ah, I see
Thanks
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen
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Posted July 2 2020 - 9:54 PM
You've probably heard me complaining about how fast my Veromessor pergandei have grown. I cut way back on non-seed foods after getting nurbs' advice, and they're still growing like crazy. I do give occasional insect protein and they love it. I don't even provide sugar water any more (I was assured they don't need it) but if I put in a drop or two they swarm it. Basically Veros appear to be super easy as long as you don't get a weird colony with mystery issues (like my one colony that mysteriously died).
Edited by OhNoNotAgain, July 2 2020 - 10:01 PM.
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Formiculture Journals::
Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli
Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola
Liometopum occidentale; Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)
Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)
Tetramorium sp.
Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis
Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus
Spoods: Phidippus sp.
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Posted July 2 2020 - 9:57 PM
OhNoNotAgain, on 03 Jul 2020 - 05:54 AM, said:
You've probably heard me complaining about how fast my Veromessor pergandei have grown. I cut way back on non-seed foods after getting nurbs' advice, and they're still growing like crazy. I do give occasional insect protein and they love it. I don't even provide sugar water any more (I was assured they don't need it) but if I put in a drop or two they swarm it. Basically Veros appear to be super easy as long as you don't get a weird colony with mystery issues.
Thanks!
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen
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