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Queen ID in South Dakota!

Started By Thunder_Birds , Jun 24 2020 1:13 PM

Best Answer RushmoreAnts , June 24 2020 - 1:47 PM

Looking at the picture again it looks like rufa group Formica.

No, fusca group. Go to the full post


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#1 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:13 PM

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Hey y’all, I found my first queen of the season about 15 minutes ago! But, I’m not sure what species it is....

 

Date: 6/24/20

Size: about half the size of a quarter
Color: Her body is a brownish grey color, but her legs and antenna and reddish brown 

 

Please let me know if you guys need any other identification. Thank you!

 

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#2 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:25 PM

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Formica sp?


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#3 Offline Antkid12 - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:27 PM

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Looks like Camponotus modoc to me.


Edited by Antkid12, June 24 2020 - 1:28 PM.

Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:27 PM

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I think it look like Camponotus modoc.

Formica. Not Camponotus.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#5 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:32 PM

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Oh yay! I actually id something.


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#6 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:33 PM

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Awesome, thanks guys!

Looks like Camponotus modoc to me.

Yeah, I can see why you would say that, but she is a good deal smaller than camponotus. 


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#7 Offline Antkid12 - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:33 PM

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Looking at the picture again it looks like rufa group Formica.


Edited by Antkid12, June 24 2020 - 1:37 PM.

Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#8 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:41 PM

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And Formica usually fly in July, but it has been unusually hot here.....so I think they might have flown early! 


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#9 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:42 PM

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Not rufa group. I would guess maybe F. montana?


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#10 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:45 PM

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Not rufa group. I would guess maybe F. montana?

Yeah, I think your right. Thanks


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#11 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:47 PM   Best Answer

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Looking at the picture again it looks like rufa group Formica.

No, fusca group.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#12 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted June 24 2020 - 1:51 PM

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Looking at the picture again it looks like rufa group Formica.

No, fusca group.

 

Yeah, that’s looks very much like her. I think that’s the one...


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#13 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 24 2020 - 2:37 PM

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Looking at the picture again it looks like rufa group Formica.

No, fusca group.
Yeah, that’s looks very much like her. I think that’s the one...
I meant fusca species group. A species group is a group of species with similar characteristics. The fusca group has dozens of near identical species.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#14 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted June 24 2020 - 2:46 PM

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This looks a lot like my Formica montana, but I would suggest getting more photos for anyone to be sure.


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#15 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 24 2020 - 3:01 PM

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I have caught queens of this species, or that were nearly identical to this species in the past.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#16 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 24 2020 - 4:22 PM

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Looks like formica Montana to me. Very common in grasslands and praries.

Edited by Manitobant, June 24 2020 - 4:23 PM.

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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/
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