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Two more ant ID's

Started By Froggy , Jun 10 2020 1:06 PM

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#1 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 1:06 PM

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I forgot to add these two to my other post lol

 

Ant #1

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Cave Creek, AZ
2. Date of collection: N/A
3. Habitat of collection: Desert Brush
4. Length (from head to gaster): ~4mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Dark Red-Brown head, Yellow-Brown thorax, Dark Brown Gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Twelve segmented antenna, one petiole node
7. Distinguishing behavior: They seemed to come in and out of the nest in waves of three-five at a time
8. Nest description: small to large dirt crater with small rocks and sticks on entrance

9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A

 

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Ant #2

 

Probably a species of Crematogaster

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Cave Creek, AZ

2. Date of collection: N/A
3. Habitat of collection: Desert Brush
4. Length (from head to gaster): ~5mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Dark Brown head, Yellow-Brown thorax, Dark Brown Gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Eleven segmented antenna, one petiole node, tip of gaster is pointed
7. Distinguishing behavior: They have a trail going up a tree
8. Nest description: N/A

9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A

 

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Edited by Froggy, June 10 2020 - 5:39 PM.

#2 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 10 2020 - 1:11 PM

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1 is Dorymyrmex sp., could be bicolor. Seen then everywhere in suburban Phoenix.

Edited by AntsDakota, June 10 2020 - 1:11 PM.

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 10 2020 - 2:29 PM

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1) Possibly D. flavus

2) Image does not work, but is not Crematogaster, as they have two petiole nodes.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:34 PM

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1) Possibly D. flavus

2) Image does not work, but is not Crematogaster, as they have two petiole nodes.

I fixed the image


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#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:43 PM

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It is indeed Crematogaster. That means it does have two petiole nodes.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#6 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:49 PM

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It is indeed Crematogaster. That means it does have two petiole nodes.

Oops, I guess I counted wrong lol, would you need better photos for a more exact ID cause I can try take more tonight


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#7 Offline ponerinecat - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:53 PM

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It is indeed Crematogaster. That means it does have two petiole nodes.

Oops, I guess I counted wrong lol, would you need better photos for a more exact ID cause I can try take more tonight

 

Crematogaster tend to raise the gaster up, sometimes hiding a petiole node from view.


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#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:56 PM

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Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#9 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 6:03 PM

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Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.

Oh ok, thanks for all the help with ID's!


#10 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted June 10 2020 - 7:17 PM

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Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.

Crematogaster anywhere are pretty much impossible to ID, to be honest.


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Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis

#11 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 11 2020 - 2:46 AM

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Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.

Crematogaster anywhere are pretty much impossible to ID, to be honest.
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#12 Offline ponerinecat - Posted June 11 2020 - 8:15 AM

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Unless its an oddball like inflata.

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What the HECK is that!?!?
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#14 Offline Froggy - Posted June 11 2020 - 9:45 AM

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What the HECK is that!?!?

Exactly what I was thinking


#15 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 11 2020 - 9:54 AM

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What the HECK is that!?!?

Its an epic Crema worker.


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