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pallidefulva or Parasite? (South Dakota)


Best Answer TennesseeAnts , June 9 2020 - 6:36 AM

Looks like Formica incerta.

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#1 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 9 2020 - 6:29 AM

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So, I recently received a Formica sp. queen from Ants_Dakota, who was recently in the Black Hills. He first thought it to be a social parasite, yet to me she looks similar to pallidefulva. Just thought I'd get a second opinion:

 

1. Location of collection: near Custer State Park, Black Hills, South Dakota

2. Today's date: 6/9/20

 

1. Location of collection: near Custer State Park, Black Hills, South Dakota

2. Date of collection: irrelevant, collected under a rock out of nuptial flight season

3. Habitat of collection: forested area

4. Length: just barely short of 10 mm

5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: Shiny orange head and thorax, black wing scars, shiny black gaster

6. Distinguishing characteristics: Lots of pubescence near the back of gaster

7. Anything else distinctive:  Was holding an egg in her mouth at one point 

8. Nest description: N/A

9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#2 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 9 2020 - 6:36 AM   Best Answer

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Looks like Formica incerta.


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#3 Offline Amazant - Posted June 9 2020 - 6:38 AM

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To me it looks like Formica Pallidefulva or Formica incerta. That also does not seem like a social parasite because it doesn’t have the body shape of one and it already has eggs.
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Colonies: Formica pallidefulva, Lasius neoniger, Camponotus decipiens, Camponotus sp, Camponotus Vicinus, Crematogaster Sp

#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 9 2020 - 7:09 AM

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Yeah, I always thought the thorax was way too large to be a parasite. Also didn’t think parasites were that orange.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 9 2020 - 7:16 AM

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Yeah, I always thought the thorax was way too large to be a parasite. Also didn’t think parasites were that orange.

The thorax doesn't mean a whole lot in Formica parasites. You'll have to look at the gaster and head for the most part. 

 

Here's a key to the New England Formicahttps://www.antwiki....England_Formica


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