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La Mesa Blacklight ID

Started By M_Ants , Jun 3 2020 11:43 AM

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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 11:43 AM

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Body:
La Mesa CA Blacklight around 8pm

June 2

 Redish head and black abdomen

Length 7 mm

IMG 0230
IMG 0218

Edited by M_Ants, June 3 2020 - 11:58 AM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 3 2020 - 11:51 AM

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I doubt the 10mm measurement, but these are Pheidole.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#3 Offline VoidElecent - Posted June 3 2020 - 11:51 AM

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This is a Pheidole queen; Cali folks will likely have a better idea of the species.


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#4 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 11:55 AM

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Anything I should know about how to care for them?


Edited by M_Ants, June 3 2020 - 12:01 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 3 2020 - 12:08 PM

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Anything I should know about how to care for them?

they are fully claustral and can grow quite fast.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#6 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 12:22 PM

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Any idea what type of Pheidole?


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 3 2020 - 12:32 PM

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Species is pretty much impossible without microscope pictures.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#8 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 12:40 PM

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Does the species matter very much? And should I separate them?


Edited by M_Ants, June 3 2020 - 12:52 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#9 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 3 2020 - 12:46 PM

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No, the species doesn't really matter.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#10 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 2:52 PM

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They look kind of like xyloni.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#11 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 3 2020 - 3:04 PM

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They are not xyloni.These are Pheidole. Xyloni are way different.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#12 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 3:07 PM

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Just saying. I believe you. I'm a newb.  :)


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#13 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 3 2020 - 4:31 PM

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Does the species matter very much? And should I separate them?

I believe the majority of Californian Pheidole are polygynous.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#14 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 3 2020 - 5:37 PM

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I don't think that is necessarily true.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#15 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 5:46 PM

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Well I separated them for now. Who knows if they even mated.


Veromessor pergandei

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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#16 Offline TechAnt - Posted June 3 2020 - 6:43 PM

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Not all Pheidole are polygonus, if you have a bunch of queens, you can try and put a few in two queen pairs. Then you can see if they will accept each other. But often, most Pheidole sp. are polygonus.

Edit: So the species does matter, at least in concerns of when you put them together. As different species may or may not be polygonus as I stated previously.

Edited by TechAnt, June 3 2020 - 6:45 PM.

My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#17 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 3 2020 - 7:17 PM

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Wish I knew how to id them. Only caught three so don't want to risk any.


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

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