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[Patorikku]

Pretty sure she is a Camponotus, but I’m not sure if the specific species. She’s almost as big as my C. pennsylvanicus. Queen, but her coloration is different. Is she a C. Americanus?

1. Location of collection: Verona, MS
2. Date of collection: 06/01/2020
3. Habitat of collection: Inside Log
4. Length: 1+ inch
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black and Rusty Brown/Orange
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Orange looking legs
7. Distinguishing behavior: Wood worker
8. Nest description: Inside Log
9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A



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[FeedTheAnts]

Looks like Camponotus chromaiodes.

[RushmoreAnts]

I believe C. americanus queens are larger than pennsylvanicus.

[VoidElecent]

I really want to say Campontous herculeanus, but since this is in Mississippi, I second Camponotus chromaiodes. Also, every C. chromaiodes queen I have caught has been slightly smaller than C. pennsylvanicus.

 

If you could get clearer photos, that would help. While color is not an effective identifier, I will say the first few gastric tergides of C. chrimaoides tend to be slightly reddish in my experience

[Patorikku]

I really want to say Campontous herculeanus, but since this is in Mississippi, I second Camponotus chromaiodes. Also, every C. chromaiodes queen I have caught has been slightly smaller than C. pennsylvanicus.

If you could get clearer photos, that would help. While color is not an effective identifier, I will say the first few gastric tergides of C. chrimaoides tend to be slightly reddish in my experience

I’m having others on other platforms tell me that the reddish legs are a dead giveaway that it is C. Modoc.


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[rcbuggy88]

Modoc have a matte color to them, also your pictures probably are not clear enough. Aside from that it probably is some sort of camponotus as said above.

Edit: it looks like your photos are focused further back on the container or finger, maybe hold the phone slightly further back?

Edited by rcbuggy88, June 1 2020 - 12:45 PM.

[NickAnter]

C. modoc is not present that far east. It kind of irks me when people continually suggest IDs of species that are not present in the state, or in adjacent states. No offense meant, but I had to say that.

 

I think it is pretty safe to say this is chromaiodes.

[TennesseeAnts]

Definitely Camponotus chromaiodes.

[rcbuggy88]

C. modoc is not present that far east. It kind of irks me when people continually suggest IDs of species that are not present in the state, or in adjacent states. No offense meant, but I had to say that.

 

I think it is pretty safe to say this is chromaiodes.

Were you referring to me or when he said "people on other platforms?" I don't think I suggested it was and pointed that modocs are matte and his pictures show the queen to be somewhat glossy. 

[Patorikku]

I really want to say Campontous herculeanus, but since this is in Mississippi, I second Camponotus chromaiodes. Also, every C. chromaiodes queen I have caught has been slightly smaller than C. pennsylvanicus.

If you could get clearer photos, that would help. While color is not an effective identifier, I will say the first few gastric tergides of C. chrimaoides tend to be slightly reddish in my experience

Could you explain what the “gastric tergides” are? I googled that and the only reference for that actual term that popped up was your actual comment. Kind of funny, actually.


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[NickAnter]

 

C. modoc is not present that far east. It kind of irks me when people continually suggest IDs of species that are not present in the state, or in adjacent states. No offense meant, but I had to say that.

 

I think it is pretty safe to say this is chromaiodes.

Were you referring to me or when he said "people on other platforms?" I don't think I suggested it was and pointed that modocs are matte and his pictures show the queen to be somewhat glossy. 

 

No, the people on other platform.

[TennesseeAnts]

I really want to say Campontous herculeanus, but since this is in Mississippi, I second Camponotus chromaiodes. Also, every C. chromaiodes queen I have caught has been slightly smaller than C. pennsylvanicus.
If you could get clearer photos, that would help. While color is not an effective identifier, I will say the first few gastric tergides of C. chrimaoides tend to be slightly reddish in my experience

Could you explain what the “gastric tergides” are? I googled that and the only reference for that actual term that popped up was your actual comment. Kind of funny, actually.
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The tergites are the segments of the abdomen.

[rcbuggy88]

No, the people on other platform.

 

 

 

 

 

Cool I'm not very experienced so I try not to sound conclusive but be more broad in my answers. 

[VoidElecent]

 

 

I really want to say Campontous herculeanus, but since this is in Mississippi, I second Camponotus chromaiodes. Also, every C. chromaiodes queen I have caught has been slightly smaller than C. pennsylvanicus.
If you could get clearer photos, that would help. While color is not an effective identifier, I will say the first few gastric tergides of C. chrimaoides tend to be slightly reddish in my experience

Could you explain what the “gastric tergides” are? I googled that and the only reference for that actual term that popped up was your actual comment. Kind of funny, actually.
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The tergites are the segments of the abdomen.

 

 

Yeah, I meant tergites*