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Ant Queen ID pls! Massachusetts-May 26th


Best Answer Kaelwizard , May 26 2020 - 12:47 PM

Camponotus pennsylvanicus. They are very common.

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#1 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 26 2020 - 12:45 PM

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So around 3:45 est I saw what looked like a queen with wings on my window(on the outside). I quickly went outside but it was gone. As I went back inside, I saw a queen on the rim of a pot(idk if it was the same queen but it was a similar size). It was just going in a circle on the rim. So I snatched it in a test tube. It might not be fertilized because of its wings. I'm also pretty sure its not a wasp or male ant but not 100% sure.

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Near Worcester MA
2. Date of collection: May 26th around 3:45
3. Habitat of collection: In my backyard on the rim of a pot
4. Length (from head to gaster): 1.45 cm to 1.65 cm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: The tips of its legs are reddish
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Wings, big af,
7. Distinguishing behavior: If its the same one as the one on the window than it can still fly. It might not be though. Also it is pulling SUPER hard at the cotton.
8. Nest description: N/A

9. Nuptial flight time and date: Sometime today

 

Can queens still fly after they mate if they still have wings?

 

Images:https://imgur.com/a/W9suMeM

 

Thx to anyone that helps! :D



#2 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 26 2020 - 12:46 PM

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Camponotus pennsylvanicus. I believe mated queens tend to have more difficulty flying.

 

edit: spelling


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#3 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 26 2020 - 12:47 PM   Best Answer

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Camponotus pennsylvanicus. They are very common.


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#4 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 26 2020 - 1:05 PM

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Thx



#5 Offline SabbyMae - Posted May 26 2020 - 3:32 PM

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I caught two females earlier today that look a lot like yours and people seem to think they are C. Herculeanus.

 

My post: https://www.formicul...usetts-5262020/



#6 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 26 2020 - 4:23 PM

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I caught two females earlier today that look a lot like yours and people seem to think they are C. Herculeanus.

 

My post: https://www.formicul...usetts-5262020/

I saw that post. They are really cool! R you thinking that mine are C. Herculeanus 2?



#7 Offline SabbyMae - Posted May 26 2020 - 4:26 PM

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I caught two females earlier today that look a lot like yours and people seem to think they are C. Herculeanus.

 

My post: https://www.formicul...usetts-5262020/

I saw that post. They are really cool! R you thinking that mine are C. Herculeanus 2?

 

I'm not one to ask about identification, lol. But she does look similar to mine. I honestly still personally think mine are Pennsylvanicus even though others have said otherwise.



#8 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 26 2020 - 4:49 PM

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I caught two females earlier today that look a lot like yours and people seem to think they are C. Herculeanus.

 

My post: https://www.formicul...usetts-5262020/

I saw that post. They are really cool! R you thinking that mine are C. Herculeanus 2?

 

I'm not one to ask about identification, lol. But she does look similar to mine. I honestly still personally think mine are Pennsylvanicus even though others have said otherwise.

 

Is the care the same?



#9 Offline SabbyMae - Posted May 26 2020 - 5:10 PM

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The only differences I have read about are size, color and growth rate. They seem to like the same temperatures and humidity for the most part. C. Herculeanus seem to grow a tiny bit faster probably due to them being slightly smaller by a couple milometers.


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#10 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 26 2020 - 5:57 PM

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The only differences I have read about are size, color and growth rate. They seem to like the same temperatures and humidity for the most part. C. Herculeanus seem to grow a tiny bit faster probably due to them being slightly smaller by a couple centimeters.

Which grows faster?



#11 Offline Fitzysgto - Posted May 29 2020 - 6:13 PM

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No to hijack this thread but what kind of ant looks like black carpenter ants but dig in the sand?



#12 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted May 29 2020 - 6:16 PM

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I caught two females earlier today that look a lot like yours and people seem to think they are C. Herculeanus.
 
My post: https://www.formicul...usetts-5262020/

I saw that post. They are really cool! R you thinking that mine are C. Herculeanus 2?
No, these are too black to be herculeanus. Definitely pennsylvanicus.

No to hijack this thread but what kind of ant looks like black carpenter ants but dig in the sand?

You mean Formica?
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#13 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:15 AM

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C. pennsylvanicus are black carpenter ants and they will dig. Formica subsericea or argentea look similar and they dig also.


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#14 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:21 AM

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When Camponotus have black, it’s dull. When Formica have black, it’s shiny and metallic. Camponotus are also noticeably larger than Formica and have majors.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#15 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:53 AM

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I can tell Camponotus from Formica right away by how they move. Formica have really fast, crazy movements. Camponotus are much slower and more deliberate in their movements.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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