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Queen or male? We have a winged ant!


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#1 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 24 2020 - 10:28 AM

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Dear friends!

There was a great event in our colony Messor structor! We got an ant with wings :) We are almost sure that this is a male, but suddenly a miracle happened and a uterus appeared :)
We noticed this miracle only today and immediately rushed to share this news with you! A little later I will definitely add subtitles in English, but I’m sure that you will see and understand everything so wonderful :)

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#2 Offline Nare - Posted May 24 2020 - 11:25 AM

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Looks like a queen. Colony must be pretty large if they're producing those. Nice work  (y)


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#3 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 24 2020 - 11:51 AM

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100% a queen. You can tell by the large head in proportion to the rest of her body.


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#4 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 24 2020 - 11:56 AM

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Awesome! Congrats!
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#5 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 24 2020 - 12:05 PM

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Looks like a queen. Colony must be pretty large if they're producing those. Nice work  (y)

 

Thank you so much! :)

 


#6 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 24 2020 - 12:07 PM

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100% a queen. You can tell by the large head in proportion to the rest of her body.

 

I compared the size with the original queen of this colony and it is almost twice as large. That is why I doubt it.


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#7 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 24 2020 - 12:09 PM

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Awesome! Congrats!

 

Thank you, my friend :) My son and I were really looking forward to the moment when something like this appears in our colony :)


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#8 Online RushmoreAnts - Posted May 24 2020 - 5:50 PM

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100% a queen. You can tell by the large head in proportion to the rest of her body.

 
I compared the size with the original queen of this colony and it is almost twice as large. That is why I doubt it.
Males are smaller than queens.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#9 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 24 2020 - 11:50 PM

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100% a queen. You can tell by the large head in proportion to the rest of her body.

 
I compared the size with the original queen of this colony and it is almost twice as large. That is why I doubt it.
Males are smaller than queens.

 

It was because of the size that I decided that it was still a male and not a queen.



#10 Offline PurdueEntomology - Posted May 25 2020 - 12:12 AM

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Definitely a MALE and here is a photo of a M. barbarus with a male, so you should assume your males would look very much like this.  The head size would be an immediate give away, I think the photo speaks for itself.

 

Messor male image


#11 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 25 2020 - 4:18 AM

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The head just doesn't seem to match up... this is weird.


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#12 Online RushmoreAnts - Posted May 25 2020 - 5:05 AM

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#13 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 25 2020 - 5:06 AM

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Winged worker?  :lol:

Improbable, of course. Probably a reproductive of some sort.


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#14 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 26 2020 - 2:09 PM

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Definitely a MALE and here is a photo of a M. barbarus with a male, so you should assume your males would look very much like this.  The head size would be an immediate give away, I think the photo speaks for itself.

 

If you look at the total size of the individual, it looks more like a male. But if you look at the proportions of the head and body, it looks more like a queen. It is believed that this is the queen, which was poorly fed during the larva period :)



#15 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 26 2020 - 2:10 PM

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The head just doesn't seem to match up... this is weird.

 

This is the whole point. Therefore, many of my friends say that after all it is a uterus, but perhaps it is somehow underdeveloped.



#16 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 26 2020 - 2:14 PM

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Winged worker?  :lol:

Improbable, of course. Probably a reproductive of some sort.

 

This is already a very fantastic option :) Most likely it is a uterus that was poorly fed  :D  :D  :D



#17 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 27 2020 - 5:55 AM

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It just looks like a queen to me.



#18 Offline Kaban_Kabanus - Posted May 30 2020 - 3:50 AM

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this winged ant still lives in the formikariy, does not fly away anywhere. became a little larger in size, the wings did not fall. She was seen at work a couple of times: she looked after the larvae. no aggression from other inhabitants of formicaria and the queen :)






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