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[rcbuggy88]

Well, I though the queen was unfertilized but now there seems to be a worker. The first "nanitic" produced was a male, but the second one was a proper worker nanitic?      . Its also my first colony* so I was disappointed with the male, but now the queen is partially fertilized? The Male fed the worker and queen so its kinda a worker? Its got limp wings hanging of the side of it's body. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*cool colony (other one is I think monomorium minimum)

edit: It might not be monomorium, it might just be argentines or tetra. It is a dark black and shaped more like the monomorium pictures i've looked (not an expert) but antmaps says not many nearby. Now I think they may be Tapinoma but I don't really care too much.

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Edited by rcbuggy88, June 26 2020 - 3:40 PM.

[Antkid12]

That is really, really strange. 

[EthanNgo678]

That is not monomorium, the first picture looks like Camponotus clarithorax. 

[NickAnter]

That looks to be some sort of male-female hybrid. that's not what a normal male Camponotus male looks like. That may be the first record of this in Camponotus on this forum.

[rcbuggy88]

Dude, I said first "cool colony" the other one I have is the boring monomorium. The title is also "Camponotus something"...

 

Aside from that, I found another one of these queens a couple days ago on my dining room chair, inside the house??? I look out side for an hour and can't find anymore. The first queen I found, was right outside my house. And I've never seen wild Camponotus close by? The only ants I've seen close to here are Argentines, Monomorium, and Prenolepis??? This is the Male/Female Hybrid 1st Nanitic in question.

 

edit: to show photos 

edit: might not even be monomorium might just be argentines.

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Edited by rcbuggy88, May 16 2020 - 7:12 PM.

[OhNoNotAgain]

WOW that is really cool. Get lots of videos and photos and maybe find an expert to show it to.

Edited by OhNoNotAgain, May 14 2020 - 2:14 PM.

[rcbuggy88]

Well, there are 2 pupa so lets just see what they turn out to be lol. Also, I don't really have a way to take high resolution photos, so after the male dies, how to I keep it from growing fungus?

[Antkid12]

Well, there are 2 pupa so lets just see what they turn out to be lol. Also, I don't really have a way to take high resolution photos, so after the male dies, how to I keep it from growing fungus?

take it out with a small tweezer.

[OhNoNotAgain]

The head looks like the head of the nanitic? Maybe it's a worker with some queen parts?

[OhNoNotAgain]

Actually, wait, the head looks maybe half and half, maybe like this bee?

 

https://www.smithson...male-180974553/

 

"Unlike hermaphrodites, which often outwardly appear male or female but have the reproductive organs of both, gynandromorphs boast entire bodies that are sexual mosaics. Because of their rarity in nature, these sex-split individuals are poorly understood."

Edited by OhNoNotAgain, May 14 2020 - 3:17 PM.

[TheMicroPlanet]

What genetic witchcraft is going on here

[jushi]

This is really interesting. What species do you think it is? You may have found something really crazy.

[OhNoNotAgain]

The article proposes two possible causes of gynandromorphs:

 

"...double fertilization events seem to explain at least some honeybee gynandromorphs, though male-female hybrids in other species can manifest in other ways. Another explanation might involve a cell in a typical female embryo making a mistake while copying itself, generating one female cell and one male cell instead of two female cells."

[TheMicroPlanet]

The article proposes two possible causes of gynandromorphs:

 

"...double fertilization events seem to explain at least some honeybee gynandromorphs, though male-female hybrids in other species can manifest in other ways. Another explanation might involve a cell in a typical female embryo making a mistake while copying itself, generating one female cell and one male cell instead of two female cells."

so that's the genetic witchcraft going on here

[Amazant]

I’m pretty sure this happened to my tetramorium colony last year
Here are two pictures

I circled the wings

Here is a weird development at the end of its gaster.

[ANTdrew]

Monomorium ain’t boring, they’re just small.

[ForestDragon]

those are very rare in nature, I would try to get it preserved in resin or sanatizer when it dies, this is awesome

[VoidElecent]

I believe that one workers is a gynandromorph. I found a gynandromorph Brachymyrmex depilis queen once; I still have her in ethanol!

[RushmoreAnts]

Monomorium ain’t boring, they’re just small.

I feel the same way about Solenopsis molesta. One of my favorite species, yet it's very underappreciated.

[ANTdrew]

I love Solenopsia molesta, too. I never got the prejudice against small ants. A bunch of huge Camponotus huddled up with full social stomachs doing nothing for days at a time is my idea of boring. To each his own, though.