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Whoa this sucks: "Murder hornet" arrives in North America


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#101 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 5 2020 - 1:24 PM

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Yeah, I read about it a while ago.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#102 Offline Zeiss - Posted May 5 2020 - 5:00 PM

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These hornets aren't even alive in Canada and the US.  Only a single nest was found back in 2019 and it was exterminated properly.  "Murder Hornet" is just some BS that the media came up with to sensationalize the story.

 

Here is a quote from my boss, Doug Yanega, museum curator at UCR:

 

Today's Media Circus:

Some poorly-worded media reports about Asian Giant Hornets have triggered a veritable avalanche of nonsense online, but I can help set the record straight.  One colony was found and exterminated in Nanaimo on Vancouver Island in September of 2019, with a few sightings associated.  One wasp originally believed to be from that colony was found - dead - on the US side of the border near Nanaimo in December (apparently genetic tests completed within the last month suggest it was from a different colony, though it's still suspiciously close, within 50 miles).  Right now, all the authorities are doing is asking people to keep their eyes peeled JUST IN CASE there were queens that escaped the destruction of the Nanaimo nest, and established their own nests nearby.  I was one of the authorities brought in to consult on this case, and to my knowledge there have not been any sightings in 2020 that would suggest the eradication attempt was unsuccessful.  Put bluntly, as far as we know, there are no Asian Giant Hornets alive in either the US or Canada as of 2020, and if there are, then they would be in the immediate vicinity of Vancouver Island (about a 50 mile radius or so)...


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These hornets aren't even alive in Canada and the US.  Only a single nest was found back in 2019 and it was exterminated properly.  "Murder Hornet" is just some BS that the media came up with to sensationalize the story.

 

Here is a quote from my boss, Doug Yanega, museum curator at UCR:

 

Today's Media Circus:

Some poorly-worded media reports about Asian Giant Hornets have triggered a veritable avalanche of nonsense online, but I can help set the record straight.  One colony was found and exterminated in Nanaimo on Vancouver Island in September of 2019, with a few sightings associated.  One wasp originally believed to be from that colony was found - dead - on the US side of the border near Nanaimo in December (apparently genetic tests completed within the last month suggest it was from a different colony, though it's still suspiciously close, within 50 miles).  Right now, all the authorities are doing is asking people to keep their eyes peeled JUST IN CASE there were queens that escaped the destruction of the Nanaimo nest, and established their own nests nearby.  I was one of the authorities brought in to consult on this case, and to my knowledge there have not been any sightings in 2020 that would suggest the eradication attempt was unsuccessful.  Put bluntly, as far as we know, there are no Asian Giant Hornets alive in either the US or Canada as of 2020, and if there are, then they would be in the immediate vicinity of Vancouver Island (about a 50 mile radius or so)...

 

 

Zeiss, Thank you for posting this. I had been meaning to but you beat me to it.



#104 Offline Zeiss - Posted May 5 2020 - 5:48 PM

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Zeiss, Thank you for posting this. I had been meaning to but you beat me to it.

You're welcome.  I have been meaning to say something about this thread, but then I saw what my boss had posted and figured it would help even more.


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#105 Offline BugFinder - Posted May 5 2020 - 9:49 PM

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#106 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:19 AM

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Y'know, we always talk about how the media hypes things up, but we forget one crucial thing... WE'RE the media. We, humans, make up the media. We talk about it likes it's some system we're disconnected with without realizing that we could be potentially spreading who knows what. Maybe the people in charge of reporting on this hornet didn't even know they were hyping it up. When we talk abot the media and all its faults, let's remember that its the error of people just like us.



#107 Offline Zeiss - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:24 AM

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Y'know, we always talk about how the media hypes things up, but we forget one crucial thing... WE'RE the media. We, humans, make up the media. We talk about it likes it's some system we're disconnected with without realizing that we could be potentially spreading who knows what. Maybe the people in charge of reporting on this hornet didn't even know they were hyping it up. When we talk abot the media and all its faults, let's remember that its the error of people just like us.

They know full well what they were doing.  It's their job to make things seem exciting and catchy to people, even if they need to twist the facts to fit their narrative.  Some may be unintentional, but majority of it is.  Another issue is the people who blindly accept whatever their preferred news outlet tells them.


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#108 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:28 AM

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Y'know, we always talk about how the media hypes things up, but we forget one crucial thing... WE'RE the media. We, humans, make up the media. We talk about it likes it's some system we're disconnected with without realizing that we could be potentially spreading who knows what. Maybe the people in charge of reporting on this hornet didn't even know they were hyping it up. When we talk abot the media and all its faults, let's remember that its the error of people just like us.

They know full well what they were doing.  It's their job to make things seem exciting and catchy to people, even if they need to twist the facts to fit their narrative.  Some may be unintentional, but majority of it is.  Another issue is the people who blindly accept whatever their preferred news outlet tells them.

 

Plus, people wouldn't bother reading an article that doesn't hype things up to peak their interest. I think money plays a big part in this, but i'm not an expert on the subject by any means.


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#109 Offline Zeiss - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:30 AM

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Y'know, we always talk about how the media hypes things up, but we forget one crucial thing... WE'RE the media. We, humans, make up the media. We talk about it likes it's some system we're disconnected with without realizing that we could be potentially spreading who knows what. Maybe the people in charge of reporting on this hornet didn't even know they were hyping it up. When we talk abot the media and all its faults, let's remember that its the error of people just like us.

They know full well what they were doing.  It's their job to make things seem exciting and catchy to people, even if they need to twist the facts to fit their narrative.  Some may be unintentional, but majority of it is.  Another issue is the people who blindly accept whatever their preferred news outlet tells them.

Plus, people wouldn't bother reading an article that doesn't hype things up to peak their interest. I think money plays a big part in this, but i'm not an expert on the subject by any means.

Money plays a huge part.  Media outlets are successful businesses.  Whatever gets them more views and subscriptions.


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#110 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:32 AM

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Y'know, we always talk about how the media hypes things up, but we forget one crucial thing... WE'RE the media. We, humans, make up the media. We talk about it likes it's some system we're disconnected with without realizing that we could be potentially spreading who knows what. Maybe the people in charge of reporting on this hornet didn't even know they were hyping it up. When we talk abot the media and all its faults, let's remember that its the error of people just like us.

They know full well what they were doing.  It's their job to make things seem exciting and catchy to people, even if they need to twist the facts to fit their narrative.  Some may be unintentional, but majority of it is.  Another issue is the people who blindly accept whatever their preferred news outlet tells them.

Plus, people wouldn't bother reading an article that doesn't hype things up to peak their interest. I think money plays a big part in this, but i'm not an expert on the subject by any means.

Money plays a huge part.  Media outlets are successful businesses.  Whatever gets them more views and subscriptions.

 

So they're willing to warp truth to get rich? Man, what even is society anymore



#111 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:45 AM

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I've seen this all the time. That's why I never trust the media. Even COVID's hyped. I mean, it's real, and serious, and it's killed a lot of people, but the media makes it seem like it's an apocalypse and the end of the world.


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#112 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:46 AM

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Doesn't this forum count as media?



#113 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted May 6 2020 - 4:47 AM

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Doesn't this forum count as media?

I'm talking more about news outlets. This is more like social media.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#114 Offline BugFinder - Posted May 6 2020 - 7:40 PM

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Y'know, we always talk about how the media hypes things up, but we forget one crucial thing... WE'RE the media. We, humans, make up the media. We talk about it likes it's some system we're disconnected with without realizing that we could be potentially spreading who knows what. Maybe the people in charge of reporting on this hornet didn't even know they were hyping it up. When we talk abot the media and all its faults, let's remember that its the error of people just like us.

They know full well what they were doing.  It's their job to make things seem exciting and catchy to people, even if they need to twist the facts to fit their narrative.  Some may be unintentional, but majority of it is.  Another issue is the people who blindly accept whatever their preferred news outlet tells them.

 

 

Quite true.


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#116 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 23 2020 - 5:03 PM

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Hey they just recently found a nest, this time in Washington State.  :thinking:

So kudos to the scientific community's actually acting to stop their spread.

 

In our area there was news of some kind of invasive bug, and I spotted a trap set up at the end of the block as people worked to isolate and stop it. Science funding is WORTH IT.  :)


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#117 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 23 2020 - 8:13 PM

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Hey they just recently found a nest, this time in Washington State. :thinking:
So kudos to the scientific community's actually acting to stop their spread.

In our area there was news of some kind of invasive bug, and I spotted a trap set up at the end of the block as people worked to isolate and stop it. Science funding is WORTH IT. :)

Idrc as long as it stays in Washington, imo. Gives me another Vespa species to add to me collection. (Kinda kidding)

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#118 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 26 2020 - 7:02 PM

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Apparently removal was quite a process. lol

https://apnews.com/a...2e018a7b2a4a1e5

 

"Saturday’s operation began at about 5:30 a.m. with the team donning protective suits — purchased from Amazon... setting up scaffolding around the tree so they could reach the opening of the nest.... The team stuffed dense foam padding into a crevice above and below the nest entrance and wrapped the tree with cellophane, leaving just a single opening. This is where the team inserted a vacuum hose to remove the hornets from the nest.

Team members used a wooden board to whack the tree to encourage hornets to leave, the agency said.

When the hornets stopped coming out of the nest, the team pumped carbon dioxide into the tree to kill or anesthetize any remaining hornets. They then sealed the tree with spray foam, wrapped it again with cellophane...."


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Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#119 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 9 2020 - 5:18 PM

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I actually caught one of these today 😐😐😐😐I believe it was a queen.

Edited by KitsAntVa, November 9 2020 - 5:18 PM.

We don’t talk about that

#120 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 9 2020 - 5:20 PM

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Nvm

Edited by KitsAntVa, November 9 2020 - 5:22 PM.

We don’t talk about that




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