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#1 Offline Vendayn - Posted April 15 2020 - 11:28 PM

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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted April 16 2020 - 4:11 AM

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Dang, that’s a tough one. All I can think of is providing high quality seeds that the invasives would ignore, maybe hard shelled ones the Pogonomyrmex can deal with? In the long run, these species will need to learn how to coexist. Some sort of balance may come about like what happened with gypsy moths.
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#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted April 16 2020 - 6:43 AM

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I'm not sure if any balance can be attained with Pogonomyrmex and argentines. The argentines seem to hate them more than any other ant.  I would say to just try and hide the baits somewhere where no one will possibly notice them if possible. If not, I would agree with ANTdrew, and just feed them as many seeds as possible, unless your insane fellow apartment goers will complain about that too?


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 16 2020 - 6:45 AM

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Bring in some Solenopsis molesta and Prenolepis imparis. The former is in my opinion one of the best remedies for any invader (they even crash RIFA colonies from the inside out), and the latter specializes in Argentines.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#5 Offline anttics - Posted April 16 2020 - 10:26 AM

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Bring in some Solenopsis molesta and Prenolepis imparis. The former is in my opinion one of the best remedies for any invader (they even crash RIFA colonies from the inside out), and the latter specializes in Argentines.


Interesting those are native species. And will not hunt down Pogonomyrmex colonies. Since they coexist. Argentine ants kill everything they do not coexist

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#6 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 16 2020 - 10:32 AM

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I believe S. molesta will also prey on Pogonomyrmex. However, they're probably more used to it than Argentines, as it's a natural behavior.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted April 16 2020 - 2:00 PM

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With the Solenopsis molesta, I am afraid the phrase, "Who watches the watchmen?" is quite fitting. They are very aggressive, and would go after the Pogonomyrmex if they intruded on their territory.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#8 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 16 2020 - 2:00 PM

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They'd just have to be placed near the Argentines, then.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#9 Offline gcsnelling - Posted April 16 2020 - 2:55 PM

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My suggestion is to just kiss them good bye.



#10 Offline smares - Posted April 25 2020 - 9:56 PM

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Could try pouring a bit of granulated ant poison into the nest entrance.




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