How serious is the USDA on destroying organisms approved for transport after the expiration date? Have any of you had to deal with this?
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
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How serious is the USDA on destroying organisms approved for transport after the expiration date? Have any of you had to deal with this?
Very serious. If you renew the permit you can keep it going for a long while.
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Ok, thanks.
"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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How long do you think? Have you done this before, and if so how long were you able to keep the imported species?Very serious. If you renew the permit you can keep it going for a long while.How serious is the USDA on destroying organisms approved for transport after the expiration date? Have any of you had to deal with this?
"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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How long do you think? Have you done this before, and if so how long were you able to keep the imported species?
Very serious. If you renew the permit you can keep it going for a long while.How serious is the USDA on destroying organisms approved for transport after the expiration date? Have any of you had to deal with this?
I have not my self, but know people that have. I believe the standard permit lasts 4 years.
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Do you mean I would have to renew the permit once every four years, or it cannot be renewed again after four years?I have not my self, but know people that have. I believe the standard permit lasts 4 years.How long do you think? Have you done this before, and if so how long were you able to keep the imported species?Very serious. If you renew the permit you can keep it going for a long while.How serious is the USDA on destroying organisms approved for transport after the expiration date? Have any of you had to deal with this?
"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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Do you mean I would have to renew the permit once every four years, or it cannot be renewed again after four years?
I have not my self, but know people that have. I believe the standard permit lasts 4 years.
How long do you think? Have you done this before, and if so how long were you able to keep the imported species?
Very serious. If you renew the permit you can keep it going for a long while.How serious is the USDA on destroying organisms approved for transport after the expiration date? Have any of you had to deal with this?
You'd have to renew the permit every four years.
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Ok, that’s good. I wouldn’t like to renew it every month or so just to keep them.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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Ok, that’s good. I wouldn’t like to renew it every month or so just to keep them.
Just make sure you don't apply for an invasive species. They will NOT grant a permit for invasives.
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Ironically, you were the one who I was actually thinking of buying from, so I’ll get back to you if it’s approved. And I don’t believe you sell any invasives, either.
Edited by AntsDakota, April 13 2020 - 10:32 AM.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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Ironically, you were the one who I was actually thinking of buying from, so I’ll get back to you if it’s approved. And I don’t believe you sell any invasives, either.
You are correct, I rarely sell invasives. I don't trust the public with them... 
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Interesting. I would like To get a pheidole rhea here in California. They live in Arizona
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You’d also have to find a seller.
"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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I know a guy who has then. I do not think he is part of formiculture.
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Ok, then all you have to do is get the permit, and you’re good!
"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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Ok, then all you have to do is get the permit, and you’re good!
I do believe there is a fee to apply, though.
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I wasn’t charged anything.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
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Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
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I wasn’t charged anything.
Interesting... Last I heard there was a $50 fee... Glad to see its free now.
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Unless the fee comes later, but I wasn’t charged any time during the application process.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version
Keeping:
Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea
Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra
Myrmica sp.
Lasius neoniger, brevicornis
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