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Split, Croatia, S Europe - Queen + nanitics ID request

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Best Answer AnthonyP163 , April 9 2020 - 8:36 PM

I don't see any ammochaete so I believe it is Aphaenogaster. I have narrowed it down to probably be Aphaenogaster subterranea (known for it's Messor-like thorax), or Aphaenogaster epirotes, I haven't seen any of these obviously so I could be entirely wrong, this is just what I have come to after some research. 

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#1 Offline skocko76 - Posted April 9 2020 - 2:46 AM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: Split, Croatia, South Europe (coastal)
2. Date of collection: September 2018.
3. Habitat of collection: mediterranean town, pine forests, directly on coast
4. Length (from head to gaster): queen: approximately 9mm , nanitics: 3-4mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: very dark maroon (redish-brown), almost black, shiny
6. Distinguishing characteristics: late flight (late September), had eggs before hibernation
7. Distinguishing behavior: shy, apply insect food directly on larvae, cover liquids in substrate
8. Nest description: 

9. Nuptial flight time and date: late September 2018.

 

Hello friends, 

please help me identify this little colony.

I collected the queen during a large Messor wasmanni flight, believing she was a curiously small M. wasmanni queen. 

The first significant difference I noticed were the eggs present before the winter (Messor queens had none).

After winter, when nanitics came, they collected seed - I later figured out they were plugging the entrance to the test tube.

There are around 10 nanitics, all of the same size. They are not crazy about sweets, but love insects.

They carry insects into the nest and apply larvae directly onto them. Queen likes to munch on them a lot too. Guess that is a rule in all species.

They rarely leave the nest, and only one at the time. As they moved large objects into the tube and out (pinoli, large flies) I am guessing they leave the nest in larger number at night.

The larvae is rather large and mobile, have elongated necks that move and attach to insects.

I am suspecting Aphaenogaster sp. (presence of propodeal spines)

Here are some photos, I tried to get clear focus on teeth, antennae etc.. with limited success  :blush:

 

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#2 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted April 9 2020 - 8:36 PM   Best Answer

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I don't see any ammochaete so I believe it is Aphaenogaster. I have narrowed it down to probably be Aphaenogaster subterranea (known for it's Messor-like thorax), or Aphaenogaster epirotes, I haven't seen any of these obviously so I could be entirely wrong, this is just what I have come to after some research. 


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#3 Offline skocko76 - Posted April 10 2020 - 5:06 AM

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I don't see any ammochaete so I believe it is Aphaenogaster. I have narrowed it down to probably be Aphaenogaster subterranea (known for it's Messor-like thorax), or Aphaenogaster epirotes, I haven't seen any of these obviously so I could be entirely wrong, this is just what I have come to after some research. 

Thanks Anthony, great help!

I was thinking the same, leaning towards A. epirotes due to grooves on head. They are not so apparent in the photos.



#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 10 2020 - 5:21 AM

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Regardless, it shouldn’t affect care in any significant way.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#5 Offline skocko76 - Posted April 10 2020 - 6:03 AM

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Regardless, it shouldn’t affect care in any significant way.

 

Thanks AntsDakota! Yeah, I thought as much. It's just "data nerd"s curiosity, that's all.


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