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How to find Lasius brood

Started By CatsnAnts , May 28 2019 9:43 AM

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#1 Offline CatsnAnts - Posted May 28 2019 - 9:43 AM

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Okay, so I’m trying to raise a Lasius umbratus, but I need some brood. I have plenty of L. alienus workers in my yard, but trying to find brood (pupae especially) is like finding a needle in a hay stack. Does anybody have any tips?

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#2 Offline Acutus - Posted May 28 2019 - 11:04 AM

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I wish I knew where any lasius were! Just collected 2 queens of L. interjectis and need brood and workers.

 

Good luck!! :D


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#3 Offline CatsnAnts - Posted May 28 2019 - 11:35 AM

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I wish I knew where any lasius were! Just collected 2 queens of L. interjectis and need brood and workers.

Good luck!! :D


Omg that’s awesome! So far, I’ve found larvae and eggs, but no pupae, do you think it’s too early?

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#4 Offline Acutus - Posted May 28 2019 - 11:45 AM

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no idea but that should work right?


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#5 Offline CatsnAnts - Posted May 28 2019 - 12:11 PM

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no idea but that should work right?


Yes, I think it should work, but I would just rather have pupae as the workers will eclose sooner!

Edited by CatsnAnts, May 28 2019 - 12:11 PM.

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#6 Offline aznphenom - Posted March 30 2020 - 6:27 PM

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Any update to finding pupae? or just colony in general? I have no clue about lasius but somehow found a queen.


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#7 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted March 31 2020 - 4:50 AM

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Brood should be under stones in large colonies in summertime, but it might be a little early still.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Any update to finding pupae? or just colony in general? I have no clue about lasius but somehow found a queen.

Look under rotting logs in woods. Look around the area you found the queen, and you might get lucky and find her home colony. These would be the best workers to introduce. Parasitic Lasius are a dime a dozen in NOVA, so it should be the same in MD.
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#9 Offline aznphenom - Posted April 1 2020 - 3:27 AM

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Any update to finding pupae? or just colony in general? I have no clue about lasius but somehow found a queen.

Look under rotting logs in woods. Look around the area you found the queen, and you might get lucky and find her home colony. These would be the best workers to introduce. Parasitic Lasius are a dime a dozen in NOVA, so it should be the same in MD.

Under? Okay. I find her in a super long rotten long. I was kicking it apart. Saw a colony of red/orange ants. Saw another queen run out but lost her. Decided to go to another section of the log and kick again and this one came out. I didn’t think that colony was her bc she was in another section and that section didn’t have any ants. Well, I’m going to go back and grab one of the red ant and make sure it’s a lasius. Someone suggested that might still be too early for broods.
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Those chunky, reddish ants were Lasius parasites. Gather up a bunch of them. Chill them all in a fridge, then introduce them to your queen one or two at a time.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#11 Offline aznphenom - Posted April 1 2020 - 4:58 AM

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Those chunky, reddish ants were Lasius parasites. Gather up a bunch of them. Chill them all in a fridge, then introduce them to your queen one or two at a time.


When you say parasites, do you mean the host or her actual own workers? I only need workers? Don’t need broods? Did I just steal a queen of a matured colony?
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#12 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 1 2020 - 5:13 AM

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You do need at least callow workers, as queens cannot raise their own brood. However, workers of her own species will work perfectly.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Tetramorium immigrans

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Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted April 1 2020 - 5:19 AM

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Just last week I introduced mature workers to a parasite queen using the method I described, so they don’t necessarily need to be callows. You do not need brood; you need workers to raise the parasite’s brood for her. Read the Much Ado guide for more guidance.

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#14 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 1 2020 - 6:59 AM

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Much ado about the founding of Lasius temporary social parasites - General Ant Keeping - Ants & Myrmecology Forum


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#15 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted April 1 2020 - 8:40 AM

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Wow, where do you live?!? Just go around kicking rotten logs and boatloads of queens come pouring out! 


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#16 Offline aznphenom - Posted April 1 2020 - 11:34 AM

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Wow, where do you live?!? Just go around kicking rotten logs and boatloads of queens come pouring out!


Maryland. I wish it was like that. I kicked about 10 logs. Only that one had any ants at all. And just happened to see two queens run out. No other logs had any ants at all. I did see a random Camponotus (maybe discolor) worker. I’m hoping to find those.
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