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Hey, so what do you guys think is the best source of protein for ants?


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#21 Online ANTdrew - Posted March 6 2020 - 1:22 PM

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The key to thriving colonies is a variety of protein, so it’s hard to pick one best source. Dubia roaches are a great value for the price. All my ants devour them.
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#22 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted March 6 2020 - 1:41 PM

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I occasionally give mine wheat-grass mixed with sugar (the wheat-grass is obviously juiced)


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#23 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted March 6 2020 - 1:58 PM

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I occasionally give mine wheat-grass mixed with sugar (the wheat-grass is obviously juiced)

Oh wow, haven’t heard of that one :)


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#24 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted March 6 2020 - 1:59 PM

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The key to thriving colonies is a variety of protein, so it’s hard to pick one best source. Dubia roaches are a great value for the price. All my ants devour them.

Sweet, thanks for info! Good to know.


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#25 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted March 7 2020 - 9:33 AM

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I'm going to try what someone was using, Gerber chicken with gravy or turkey with gravy baby food (meat is first ingredient).

I've tried with some or all of my colonies: bloodworm soup (fail), mealworms (good), frozen crickets (fail), fruit flies (some do, some don't), chicken (fail), egg yolk (sorta), lamb (good), cooked shrimp (good), fly pupae (some interest), fly spikes (interest). Have some roaches in tubs and will try them at some point. My Pogonomyrmex, by the way, ignore springtails.


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#26 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted March 7 2020 - 9:49 AM

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Oh wow! You have tried everything! Good for you man. So, I sounds like mealworms, fruit flies, lamb, and cooked shrimp were the most successful, interesting. Thank for sharing!


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#27 Offline ponerinecat - Posted March 7 2020 - 10:27 AM

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Meat in general (like mammal or bird) is surprisingly effective. 


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#28 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted March 7 2020 - 1:04 PM

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The key to thriving colonies is a variety of protein, so it’s hard to pick one best source. Dubia roaches are a great value for the price. All my ants devour them.

We don't have roaches here, so do you think that a cricket or a caterpillar would work?


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The key to thriving colonies is a variety of protein, so it’s hard to pick one best source. Dubia roaches are a great value for the price. All my ants devour them.

We don't have roaches here, so do you think that a cricket or a caterpillar would work?

 

you can order dubias online and breed your own if that's an option for you


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#30 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted March 7 2020 - 4:30 PM

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The key to thriving colonies is a variety of protein, so it’s hard to pick one best source. Dubia roaches are a great value for the price. All my ants devour them.

We don't have roaches here, so do you think that a cricket or a caterpillar would work?

 

you can order dubias online and breed your own if that's an option for you

 

ahh. I guess i didn't realize that. Thanks!


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#31 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted March 7 2020 - 6:41 PM

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PetSmart has roaches. You could buy some there.

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#32 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted March 8 2020 - 11:25 AM

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PetSmart has roaches. You could buy some there.

Really! In all my time there getting my fish(i literally know everyone there :D)I never saw them!


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#33 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted March 8 2020 - 11:44 AM

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Although, the topic should be more specific because there isn't one universally accepted food by ants...


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#34 Offline AntaholicAnonymous - Posted March 10 2020 - 12:33 AM

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I like to feed my ants the usual cricket meal worm thing but I also give them raw chicken when I cook something.
They also LOVE tuna and I like to give them a raw egg occasionally.

I'd be careful with raw egg tho depending on how you serve it it can end in a disaster don't serve it in half the eggshell its a deathtrap.
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#35 Offline Zeiss - Posted March 10 2020 - 12:56 AM

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I don't know if someone said this already (because I didn't bother to read every post), but there isn't one kind of protein ants all like.  Variety is a great idea, except when you have specialists.


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#36 Online ANTdrew - Posted March 10 2020 - 2:25 AM

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I second that. I pointed it out in an earlier post up above. This is why I actually advocate catching insects outside, but only from safe areas far from agriculture or TrueGreen/ Chemlawn fanatics.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#37 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted March 10 2020 - 12:23 PM

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I feed mine from both sources. Flies, mosquitoes, and spiders from outside, and fruit flies and meal/super worms from PetSmart.

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#38 Offline AntaholicAnonymous - Posted March 10 2020 - 1:11 PM

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A big part of my ants diet are the insects that fly in the terrarium in the summer.

The bright light above the tank makes all sorts of insects fly in there. Especially when they smell fresh apple in there but little do they know they are tonight's dinner
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#39 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted March 10 2020 - 1:44 PM

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Having the ants do the killing must be pretty convenient for you.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#40 Offline AntaholicAnonymous - Posted March 11 2020 - 4:52 AM

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Yea convenient til the hornets come through.
that's when I get to be on the hunt. lol
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