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#1 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted February 29 2020 - 6:29 PM

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So I found a piece of wood with a strumigenus colony on it and tossed it into my isopod bin thinking that they’d eventually die out and my porcellio scaber need their rotten wood...a couple weeks later the colony ahs doubled in size and there’s a ton of brood. Just thought I’d share, never had this happen. Seems like this species does better when left in a more established vivarium type environment.
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Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#2 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 29 2020 - 6:35 PM

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interesting


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#3 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted February 29 2020 - 6:37 PM

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So I found a piece of wood with a strumigenus colony on it and tossed it into my isopod bin thinking that they’d eventually die out and my porcellio scaber need their rotten wood...a couple weeks later the colony ahs doubled in size and there’s a ton of brood. Just thought I’d share, never had this happen. Seems like this species does better when left in a more established vivarium type environment.

Sounds more great than weird.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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#4 Offline Manitobant - Posted February 29 2020 - 7:17 PM

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Strumigenys are amazing ants, you are so lucky to have a colony!

Edited by Manitobant, February 29 2020 - 7:17 PM.

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#5 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted February 29 2020 - 7:52 PM

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Strumigenys are amazing ants, you are so lucky to have a colony!

These are a lot more common than you'd think. Also, I found that the best way to keep these species and let them thrive is to provide a well-established vivarium, or a springtail culture at the least. They're really not too hard but providing food is much more difficult.


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Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#6 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted March 2 2020 - 7:55 AM

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I don't know anything about them but from Wikipedia it sounds like they are specialized for eating springtails, so that makes total sense.

Have you noticed a dip in your springtail numbers?

(Of course the way my springtails breed even a dip would be hardly noticeable....)


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#7 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted March 2 2020 - 2:41 PM

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 They're really not too hard but providing food is much more difficult.

I tried catching springtails once. But if I tried to be gentle with them and not crush them, they can jump away. If I quick snag them, they got crushed.  :mad:


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 2 2020 - 5:50 PM

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 They're really not too hard but providing food is much more difficult.

I tried catching springtails once. But if I tried to be gentle with them and not crush them, they can jump away. If I quick snag them, they got crushed.  :mad:

 

Use a cotton ball. Or better yet, an aspirator.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#9 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted March 2 2020 - 6:05 PM

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Ahem, I'm kind of the Strumigenys expert around here, so I can definitely help if need-be. Anyways, any information on the species? If you don't know and would like to know, PM me and I tell you how to send some dead specimens to me. I've contributed to Doug Booher's upcoming "Key to Western Nearctic Strumigenys", so understandably, I should definitely be able to put an ID on them. Also, nice job finding them and living in an area where they're so common! I've only ever seen three species in my are, two of which, silvestrii and membranifera, are invasive, and the other, louisianae, is the most common member of the genus. Going off of region, I'd say yours are maybe rostratapergandei, or maybe pulchella, but I'd need specimens to be sure.

 

*Edit* Reading over this, I may have come off as a bit too cocky. Sorry about that, that's just my twisted sense of humor.  :lol:


Edited by Ferox_Formicae, March 2 2020 - 6:06 PM.

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#10 Offline ponerinecat - Posted March 2 2020 - 6:26 PM

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Ahem, I'm kind of the Strumigenys expert around here, so I can definitely help if need-be. Anyways, any information on the species? If you don't know and would like to know, PM me and I tell you how to send some dead specimens to me. I've contributed to Doug Booher's upcoming "Key to Western Nearctic Strumigenys", so understandably, I should definitely be able to put an ID on them. Also, nice job finding them and living in an area where they're so common! I've only ever seen three species in my are, two of which, silvestrii and membranifera, are invasive, and the other, louisianae, is the most common member of the genus. Going off of region, I'd say yours are maybe rostratapergandei, or maybe pulchella, but I'd need specimens to be sure.

 

*Edit* Reading over this, I may have come off as a bit too cocky. Sorry about that, that's just my twisted sense of humor.  :lol:

Yes, you've gotten a lot more confident after you started working on the book. You deserve the credit though.


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#11 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted March 2 2020 - 6:36 PM

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Ahem, I'm kind of the Strumigenys expert around here, so I can definitely help if need-be. Anyways, any information on the species? If you don't know and would like to know, PM me and I tell you how to send some dead specimens to me. I've contributed to Doug Booher's upcoming "Key to Western Nearctic Strumigenys", so understandably, I should definitely be able to put an ID on them. Also, nice job finding them and living in an area where they're so common! I've only ever seen three species in my are, two of which, silvestrii and membranifera, are invasive, and the other, louisianae, is the most common member of the genus. Going off of region, I'd say yours are maybe rostratapergandei, or maybe pulchella, but I'd need specimens to be sure.
 
*Edit* Reading over this, I may have come off as a bit too cocky. Sorry about that, that's just my twisted sense of humor.  :lol:

Yes, you've gotten a lot more confident after you started working on the book. You deserve the credit though.

Indeed he does. I find that S. membranifera are the most common around here.
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Pics or it didn't happen, lol.  :D


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#13 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 2 2020 - 7:21 PM

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I think I am one of the only ones to find a Strumigenys queen here in California. She sadly disappeared, as i could not find ehr anywhere in the test tube the second day after I found her in the pool on a warm July evening.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#14 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted March 3 2020 - 5:52 AM

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I have no idea how to add pics on here so can't do that. Not sure on species either. I think it'd be best to buy a springtail culture or keep them somewhere where springtails/other microfauna can thrive as well. Also, the whole setup is relatively dry and is a bit moist in some places, but there are lots of newly hatched isopods. I'd like to remove them so I can observe them better but they seem to be doing well in the setup I have them in so far so I'll leave them there until I obtain a springtail colony soon.


Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#15 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted March 3 2020 - 9:44 AM

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I have no idea how to add pics on here so can't do that. Not sure on species either. I think it'd be best to buy a springtail culture or keep them somewhere where springtails/other microfauna can thrive as well. Also, the whole setup is relatively dry and is a bit moist in some places, but there are lots of newly hatched isopods. I'd like to remove them so I can observe them better but they seem to be doing well in the setup I have them in so far so I'll leave them there until I obtain a springtail colony soon.

You can easily attach pics but you need to click on "More Reply Options" to get to the full editor.


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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#16 Offline ForestDragon - Posted March 3 2020 - 2:31 PM

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i have no idea how to find these guys, i don't have a lot of woodland area tho, unless i tresspass on the neighbors property... id get shot



#17 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted March 3 2020 - 3:46 PM

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I have no idea how to add pics on here so can't do that.

Make an account on imgur.com and upload your photos from your device. Pull up two tabs on your search engine and have imgur in one tab and formiculture in the other. Drag your image from the imgur tab to Formiculture and into the reply box.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#18 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted March 4 2020 - 9:05 AM

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You don't actually need to make an account on imgur. Just follow what ohnonotagain said. And also, sorry about the matching verses. I didn't know that someone else had it too. I can change it, if you want.


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#19 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted March 4 2020 - 4:53 PM

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Ok so the colony decided to disappear somewhere within the wood chunks so I’d prefer to leave them alone for now. I know that they’re still alive because I still find workers foraging, hopefully they’ll increase in numbers eventually.
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Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#20 Offline ponerinecat - Posted March 4 2020 - 5:04 PM

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I think I am one of the only ones to find a Strumigenys queen here in California. She sadly disappeared, as i could not find ehr anywhere in the test tube the second day after I found her in the pool on a warm July evening.

What sp. I'm going there sometime.






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