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New tar heel ants "atrium" formicarium

Started By Manitobant , Feb 10 2020 9:41 AM

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#1 Offline Manitobant - Posted February 10 2020 - 9:41 AM

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New formicarium from tar heel ants. Seems quite interesting: https://tarheelants....products/atrium
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#2 Offline rbarreto - Posted February 10 2020 - 9:48 AM

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Holy that looks great

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#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted February 10 2020 - 12:00 PM

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Very nice. A little on the pricey side though.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline Zeiss - Posted February 10 2020 - 3:36 PM

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That is almost exactly like designs I have been working on.


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#5 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted February 10 2020 - 4:27 PM

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I prefer smaller chambered nests, but I still like the design.  :)


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#6 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 10 2020 - 4:34 PM

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It's like a small ant hotel


and is a little on the pricey side... Zeiss should make some and sell them to us lol, he would make a killing


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#7 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted February 11 2020 - 7:30 AM

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I think it looks really nice, but not something I'm probably gonna buy. Just doesn't look like enough space for the price point. I gotta say that top viewing is really awesome though. Reminds me of the mini hearth type 1
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#8 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 11 2020 - 8:51 AM

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The price for something like that seems pretty reasonable to me.


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#9 Offline Ants4fun - Posted February 11 2020 - 9:40 AM

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Honestly, you can really underestimate the costs of making something like that. Not to mention, his type 3 material is superior to hydro stone by far.

#10 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 11 2020 - 12:57 PM

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yeah, but it still seems kinda expensive. I suppose this is subject to opinion...


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#11 Offline treehunned - Posted February 11 2020 - 1:28 PM

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Very cool. I like how the nestmate slot takes the open space. Hard for me to see if it justifies the price though. I will have to wait to hear from folks who have used it.


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#12 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 11 2020 - 3:43 PM

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 I concur 


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#13 Offline Ants4fun - Posted February 11 2020 - 4:30 PM

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It’s not that much for adults who have to rely on making formicariums to support their family.
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#14 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted February 11 2020 - 4:46 PM

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True, but there is room for a happy medium, is what I'm trying to say


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#15 Offline Zeiss - Posted February 11 2020 - 5:53 PM

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Honestly, you can really underestimate the costs of making something like that. Not to mention, his type 3 material is superior to hydro stone by far.

What makes it superior?  Seems to behave just like it from what I have seen.


#16 Offline Ants4fun - Posted February 11 2020 - 6:49 PM

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Honestly, you can really underestimate the costs of making something like that. Not to mention, his type 3 material is superior to hydro stone by far.

What makes it superior?  Seems to behave just like it from what I have seen.
Gypsum in hydro stone dissolves over time. His material is harder than hydro stone and more resistant to damage than ants like Camponotus, Pogonomyrmex, etc.
His material is textured and looks nicer. The previous type 2 material’s main product was hydro stone, but apparently this type 3 is something different.

#17 Offline Zeiss - Posted February 11 2020 - 7:13 PM

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Honestly, you can really underestimate the costs of making something like that. Not to mention, his type 3 material is superior to hydro stone by far.

What makes it superior?  Seems to behave just like it from what I have seen.
Gypsum in hydro stone dissolves over time. His material is harder than hydro stone and more resistant to damage than ants like Camponotus, Pogonomyrmex, etc.
His material is textured and looks nicer. The previous type 2 material’s main product was hydro stone, but apparently this type 3 is something different.

 

As far as I am aware, all cements dissolve over time, just how quickly they do is the problem.  I haven't kept any of the formicaria long enough to see what lasts longer.  Besides, it would take a long time for hydrostone to come to the point of being unusable.  

 

On the topic of texturing, I think he just combines larger grains of sand or something with the wet mix then pours.  Still good looking though.


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#18 Offline DVD - Posted May 27 2020 - 2:24 PM

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i don't think he combines larger grains of sand in the wet mix.the outside of the atrium is not sand coated ,only the chambers are sand coated 

 

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That's a fantastic price, probably on the low side. What a lot of you kids don't understand is that it costs a lot of time and money to hand make these kinds of products at low volume. If you want to make a living at it you either have to sell a ton of them (10s of thousands) or raise your prices so that you can afford to eat, pay rent, etc. Only making a couple bucks off of each sale isn't enough for an adult with adult responsibilities and adult costs to be worth their time. Selling such an obscure labor heavy product for 115 bucks? That's low if anything.

 

 

I'm strongly considering purchasing one for myself. The appearance is really good. I want to put it on my coffee table in my living room.


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That's a fantastic price, probably on the low side. What a lot of you kids don't understand is that it costs a lot of time and money to hand make these kinds of products at low volume. If you want to make a living at it you either have to sell a ton of them (10s of thousands) or raise your prices so that you can afford to eat, pay rent, etc. Only making a couple bucks off of each sale isn't enough for an adult with adult responsibilities and adult costs to be worth their time. Selling such an obscure labor heavy product for 115 bucks? That's low if anything.

 

 

I'm strongly considering purchasing one for myself. The appearance is really good. I want to put it on my coffee table in my living room.

Yes, I'm also thinking about buying one. I love being able to see the ants from multiple angles.


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