Yes, I'm considering incerta for them. The original colony's queen is also significantly larger, so it's possible that they are Formica dolosa. I'll have to get dead workers under the microscope from each to confirm either way sometime.Wow, great update!
Also, for the Formica pallidefulva-group colony (2nd one), consider F. incerta, as I believe they might just be the dark, Northern color variant.
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