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#21 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted January 19 2020 - 5:26 PM

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Some people call a pillow a pellow why does it matter if you don’t like adopting ants then you can buy them.maybe the guy that started this thread should run for some political position and change the world one phrase at a time

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I agree, yikes...


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#22 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 19 2020 - 5:53 PM

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I don’t read anything threatening or offensive about what I wrote.was just poking fun about the non situation-situation.this whole thread started because someone didn’t “like”what someone else was calling ants trading hands.that's harsh that what someone else calls or believes something to be can bother someone enough to make a post about.

#23 Offline dspdrew - Posted January 19 2020 - 9:25 PM

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#24 Offline PacificNorthWestern - Posted January 19 2020 - 11:44 PM

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he edited out what he said



#25 Offline dspdrew - Posted January 20 2020 - 2:36 AM

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he edited out what he said

 

 

Resulting in a spam post. There are proper ways of doing things.



#26 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted January 20 2020 - 3:25 PM

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4. No posting any spam messages, including posting of messages that add little to no value to the topic of conversation.

 

he edited out what he said

 

 

Resulting in a spam post. There are proper ways of doing things.

 

Fixed. 

 

I don't see the problem in calling it an "adoption". It simply sounds better than "garage sale" or "-username-' ants for sale".


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#27 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 3:55 PM

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I don't see the problem in calling it an "adoption". It simply sounds better than "garage sale" or "-username-' ants for sale".

 

Right... the term "adoption" is more appealing to customers. Again, it's a good marketing tool.


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#28 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted January 20 2020 - 5:37 PM

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Reminds me of the sort of arguments from college days, when people were very particular about lots of things, including terminology, language evolution/corruption, etc.

Anyway I assume "adoption" is used mostly because of the alliteration. You know, the short "a" sound in English. Ant. Adoption. If it were "Salticidae" I assume "sales" would be more commonly used than "adoption." It's just nicer sounding in English. Though it appears "adoption" even has a wholly different meaning for bees ... generally in the form of sponsorships.


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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

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#29 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 5:48 PM

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Reminds me of the sort of arguments from college days, when people were very particular about lots of things, including terminology, language evolution/corruption, etc.

Anyway I assume "adoption" is used mostly because of the alliteration. You know, the short "a" sound in English. Ant. Adoption. If it were "Salticidae" I assume "sales" would be more commonly used than "adoption." It's just nicer sounding in English. Though it appears "adoption" even has a wholly different meaning for bees ... generally in the form of sponsorships.

Makes sense



#30 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 20 2020 - 6:24 PM

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Makes sense to me, too. It’s semantics, but I’ll take the chance to get up on my soap box again: don’t call it adoption if you removed one of the tiny minority of established colonies (no matter how small) from the wild. That’s more like ant abduction.
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#31 Offline Formicoidea - Posted January 20 2020 - 10:41 PM

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hmm... This might apply to me more than I'd like to admit


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- Rhytidoponera victoriae                       - Notoncus Sp. (x2)

- Anonychomyrma Cf. Froggatti (x6)


#32 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 21 2020 - 10:43 AM

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garage sale

And like garage sales, the meaning doesn't have to be completely literal. We don't sell garages (usually), and don't always sell things inside the garage. We call ants pets, and we take them home and pay a fee. It's not exactly the same thing, but it's close enough to share the word.


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