Jump to content

  • Gallery
  • Members
  • Member Map
  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

Let's call it what it is.

Started By gcsnelling , Jan 18 2020 5:56 AM

  • Please log in to reply
31 replies to this topic

#1 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 18 2020 - 5:56 AM

gcsnelling

    Expert

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,681 posts

Ant adoptions, come on, really?? This is not adoption, these are sales plain and simple so lets be honest call them sales not adoptions.


  • Martialis, Mettcollsuss, Ferox_Formicae and 2 others like this

#2 Offline drtrmiller - Posted January 18 2020 - 6:53 AM

drtrmiller

    Vendor

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,714 posts

Human adoption agencies charge money, too.  Does anyone argue they are selling children?

 

I think people use the term "Ant Adoption" because "adoption" is commonly used to describe many different animals sold as pets.  No one is circumventing any law or restriction by advertising ants for "adoption." So what precisely is your concern?


Edited by drtrmiller, January 18 2020 - 7:11 AM.

  • Martialis, Nathant2131, Mettcollsuss and 6 others like this


byFormica® is the manufacturer of the iconic nectar feeders and Sunburst Ant Nectar.
byFormica ant products always deliver consistent performance, convenience,
and reliability, making them among the most beloved ant foods and kit enjoyed by
ant keeping enthusiasts worldwide. For more information, visit www.byFormica.com.

#3 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:15 AM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

With this logic, I guess you'd have to call dog and cat adoptions "sales" as well. "Ant adoption" only sounds weird because it's not commonly used.


Edited by TheMicroPlanet, January 18 2020 - 7:16 AM.

  • Mettcollsuss likes this

My ants

https://www.formicul... themicroplanet

#4 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 18 2020 - 10:05 AM

ANTdrew

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 9,937 posts
  • LocationAlexandria, VA
I always wondered what the reasoning was behind this term. It certainly fits better for colonies reared from a single queen, not colonies unethically removed from the wild.
  • TennesseeAnts, Ferox_Formicae and DDD101DDD like this
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#5 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 18 2020 - 10:11 AM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Adoption can be used properly for colonies that are not wanted and are being given away. Selling ants that you werent planning on keeping is just selling.


  • gcsnelling likes this

#6 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 18 2020 - 11:01 AM

Vern530

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 245 posts
  • LocationTexas
What part of this concerns you?are you trying to start a movement to save the ants or what?

#7 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 18 2020 - 11:04 AM

gcsnelling

    Expert

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,681 posts

I always wondered what the reasoning was behind this term. It certainly fits better for colonies reared from a single queen, not colonies unethically removed from the wild.

 

The term adoption in this usage became prevalent as a way around website restrictions on selling animals, however call it adoption and charge a small "adoption" fee  and you were good to go. These fees were usually about what  the retail cost of the product ie: animal would be. Admittedly as was mentioned no law is being broken, but these adoptions are pretty much simply an income (admittedly small) generating move so why not call it what it is, sales.


  • Manitobant likes this

#8 Offline FSTP - Posted January 18 2020 - 11:06 AM

FSTP

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,032 posts
  • Location36.7378° N, 119.7871° W

*
POPULAR

I don't care what you call it as long as I get the ants.


  • Reacker, Ants4fun, Martialis and 9 others like this

My Youtube

My Instagram

#9 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 18 2020 - 11:12 AM

Vern530

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 245 posts
  • LocationTexas
You must be really bored a lot of people have lots of colony’s and in time they end up with to many and need to rehome some .so asking for an adoption fee to cover your cost you’ve spent in time and materials to raise the colony is not out landish.every one could have went with out hearing this opinion of other people’s opinions.waste of a post .if you don’t like it you don’t have to participate in these “adoptions”
  • Somethinghmm likes this

#10 Offline Martialis - Posted January 18 2020 - 11:27 AM

Martialis

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,516 posts
  • LocationMississippi
How would one go about legally adopting an ant? Can I?

Like, actually going through the adoption process. But for a hexapod that’s unusually socially savvy.
  • ANTdrew likes this
Spoiler

#11 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 18 2020 - 11:29 AM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

Calling it an "Adoption", if not a valid term, is purely a marketing tactic, and people fall for marketing tactics all the time. What's the difference?


My ants

https://www.formicul... themicroplanet

#12 Offline dspdrew - Posted January 18 2020 - 11:38 AM

dspdrew
  • LocationSanta Ana, CA

shrug.gif


  • Ants4fun, Martialis, Aaron567 and 4 others like this

My Ant Colonies | My Projects | Ants for Sale | Ant Keeping Products | Southern California Ant Map

#13 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 18 2020 - 4:05 PM

RushmoreAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,246 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls, South Dakota

Ant adoptions, come on, really?? This is not adoption, these are sales plain and simple so lets be honest call them sales not adoptions.

Interesting speculation. Although in my opinion what you call it isn't that important, as long as the ants aren't mistreated. Perhaps people chose to call it that because it has more of a ring (again in my opinion) than (*member*'s ant colony merchandise for sale).


  • TennesseeAnts and Ferox_Formicae like this

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis

#14 Offline T.C. - Posted January 18 2020 - 8:05 PM

T.C.

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,099 posts

Ant adoptions, come on, really?? This is not adoption, these are sales plain and simple so lets be honest call them sales not adoptions.



Honestly, I thought it was stupid too. And just kind of weird.
  • Martialis, Ferox_Formicae and DDD101DDD like this

sml_gallery_8437_2366_20715.png

 

  High Quality and Affordable Ant Keeping Gear

 

#15 Offline rbarreto - Posted January 19 2020 - 11:00 AM

rbarreto

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 645 posts
  • LocationOttawa, On

I think calling them adoptions is kinda lame but who cares....


  • T.C. and ANTdrew like this

My journal featuring most of my ants.

My other journal featuring Formica Bradleyi.

Check our my store here!

#16 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 19 2020 - 11:42 AM

Vern530

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 245 posts
  • LocationTexas
Some people call a pillow a pellow why does it matter if you don’t like adopting ants then you can buy them.maybe the guy that started this thread should run for some political position and change the world one phrase at a time

#17 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted January 19 2020 - 12:08 PM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,925 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

Content removed by author.


Edited by Ant_Dude2908, January 20 2020 - 3:22 PM.

  • Ferox_Formicae likes this

My Main Journal | My Neivamyrmex Journal | My Ant Adoption | My YouTube

Join the TennesseeAnts Discord Server! https://discord.gg/JbKwPgs

#18 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 19 2020 - 2:41 PM

gcsnelling

    Expert

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,681 posts

No Dr. attached to my name but my instructor was tougher than any college professor could ever be, I had to satisfy my dad Roy Snelling.


  • Reacker, Subverted, Martialis and 3 others like this

#19 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted January 19 2020 - 3:11 PM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,925 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

Content removed by author.


Edited by Ant_Dude2908, January 20 2020 - 3:23 PM.

My Main Journal | My Neivamyrmex Journal | My Ant Adoption | My YouTube

Join the TennesseeAnts Discord Server! https://discord.gg/JbKwPgs

#20 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 19 2020 - 5:18 PM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Some people call a pillow a pellow why does it matter if you don’t like adopting ants then you can buy them.maybe the guy that started this thread should run for some political position and change the world one phrase at a time

Rather hostile... 


  • FSTP likes this
Back to General · Next Unread Topic →


1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users