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My Formica Francoeuri colony

Started By Broncos , Oct 8 2019 5:11 AM
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#1 Offline Broncos - Posted October 8 2019 - 5:11 AM

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About 5 months ago i received a formica francoeuri colony from dspdrew with 30 workers and I just gave them an antzforall 3d printed nest and they love putting their cocoons right next to the heating pad.

sorry my photo was horrible because I was half asleep.(But you'll get the idea)11RAs07.jpg


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#2 Offline Broncos - Posted October 8 2019 - 5:14 AM

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They are at about 150 workers and housed in the 3d nest and 2 of dspdrews small dirt box formicariums.


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#3 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 8 2019 - 12:59 PM

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Nice, would love to hear more about the colony's development next year after hibernation

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#4 Offline Broncos - Posted October 10 2019 - 7:15 PM

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Nice, would love to hear more about the colony's development next year after hibernation

These do not hibernate because they have hot winters and autumns (California BTW) :lol: . But if I see a slow in development then I will hibernate them.


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#5 Offline Canadian anter - Posted October 11 2019 - 9:06 AM

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Dr. Snelling mentioned that Formica do better with some hibernation
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#6 Offline Broncos - Posted October 11 2019 - 2:23 PM

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Dr. Snelling mentioned that Formica do better with some hibernation

ok I'll put them in for 2 months is that about right? And should i do it in november


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#7 Offline Broncos - Posted October 15 2019 - 11:19 AM

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These have lost about 20 workers because they just sit there for hours then die. More dying every day

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#8 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 15 2019 - 11:53 AM

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Maybe they need hibernation? Have you fed them recently? Maybe they need water?
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#9 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 15 2019 - 12:37 PM

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Have you made changes in their diet?


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#10 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 15 2019 - 2:17 PM

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Have you made changes in their diet?


I agree with DD. One of the overlooked aspects of antkeeping is diet, and the fact that like us, ants need variety in their diets. The saying "Variety is the spice of life" is especially true.
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#11 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 15 2019 - 2:18 PM

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Have you made changes in their diet?


I agree with DD. One of the overlooked aspects of antkeeping is diet, and the fact that like us, ants need variety in their diets. The saying "Variety is the spice of life" is especially true.

 

I was more thinking about pesticides in a new diet, but that's a good point too.


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#12 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 15 2019 - 2:24 PM

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These have lost about 20 workers because they just sit there for hours then die. More dying every day

I will try my best to help because this isn't my cup of tea.
1. Are they foraging less often?
2. Have they stopped eating?
3. If they haven't stopped eating, have you fed them too much carbohydrates? (I have seen ants go diabetic)
4. If they haven't stopped eating and you are sure it's not the sugars, have they stopped eating protein? If not, have you checked your insects for pesticides from the area you caught them/ bought them?
5. Have their brood stopped developing?
6. Has the queen stopped laying?
7. Are you sure you're not under/over 'watering' your ants?
8. Has there been any mold outbreaks? If so, just offer them some rosin and they will clean themselves with it.
Numbers 1, 2, 5, and 6 are sure signs of needing hibernation. The other are unrelated. Well, I guess I can't say I didn't try! You're welcome for any help this may provide :)

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#13 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 15 2019 - 3:28 PM

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As far as I'm aware, the only Formica species that harvest and use resin are species in the Formica rufa complex. Formica francoeri belong to the fusca complex.

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#14 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 15 2019 - 3:56 PM

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As far as I'm aware, the only Formica species that harvest and use resin are species in the Formica rufa complex. Formica francoeri belong to the fusca complex.


Really? Because I read that all wood ants (North American Formica species) all will use rosin. Well it couldn't hurt to try could it?

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#15 Offline Broncos - Posted October 15 2019 - 5:19 PM

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Thank you all so much. I have 2 byformica liquid feeders one with water the other with sunburst nectar. So they should be fine. I will feed them more but it has been regular other than the 1 week break they had from crickets and fruit flies. We'll see how it goes.


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#16 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 15 2019 - 6:10 PM

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As far as I'm aware, the only Formica species that harvest and use resin are species in the Formica rufa complex. Formica francoeri belong to the fusca complex.

Really? Because I read that all wood ants (North American Formica species) all will use rosin. Well it couldn't hurt to try could it?

The common name "wood ant" or "thatched mound ant" refers to members of the rufa complex.

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#17 Offline NickAnter - Posted October 15 2019 - 6:13 PM

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All of this is evidence that common names are varying, and unlike Latin names, not universally known. Therefore, pointless.
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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#18 Offline Broncos - Posted October 18 2019 - 2:25 PM

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Their mass death spree seems to have slowed or stopped here is the photo.4070817a6e29b317aef3922e8b5ff736.jpg


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The pike under the sticks is the dead ants.


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#19 Offline Broncos - Posted October 18 2019 - 2:26 PM

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You can see the dead pile under the sticks. It’s a horrible photo!


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#20 Offline Broncos - Posted October 18 2019 - 8:50 PM

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I caught this batch of eggs by the heat mat
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