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#1 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 20 2020 - 12:45 PM

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ok ill start by apologizing for not being able to take a picture but these ants are literally to small.there are freaking tiny.yellow almost golden in color.....found in gridley california under a stone in super moist soil...any one have any idea of any species in my area that would be that small and have multiple queens so i could look up some stuff on line and see if i can get an id??



#2 Offline Broncos - Posted January 20 2020 - 12:48 PM

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Maybe solenopsis molesta
I don’t care if it is a bad photo it will help


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#3 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 20 2020 - 12:51 PM

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ok ill try right now all i have is my iphone and there in a dirty test tube but i will try



#4 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 12:51 PM

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anything helps



#5 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 20 2020 - 12:59 PM

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pics turned out better than i thought

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#6 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 1:02 PM

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100% Myrmicine. Not sure of genus/species though... Solenopsis or Pheidole, maybe?



#7 Offline Broncos - Posted January 20 2020 - 1:13 PM

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Solenopsis molesta. Look it up


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#8 Offline Vern530 - Posted January 20 2020 - 1:23 PM

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Solenopsis molesta. Look it up


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i think your right very similar.crazy i read that new virgin queens take a few workers on their back during flights to help her found her new colony.one of the most interesting things I've read about ants so far.


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#9 Offline Broncos - Posted January 20 2020 - 1:37 PM

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That’s so cool. IDK if you know but before I thought it was interesting that virgin leaf cutter ant queens take a petted of fungus from their main colony.


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#10 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 20 2020 - 1:53 PM

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Solenopsis, but don't quite look like molesta.



#11 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 1:59 PM

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There are ~11 species of Solenopsis in CA and they all look the same...



#12 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 20 2020 - 2:00 PM

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There are ~11 species of Solenopsis in CA and they all look the same...

Not at all true. I still doubt these are molesta though, they seem to be slightly polymorphic and more aggressive than usual.



#13 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 2:12 PM

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There are ~11 species of Solenopsis in CA and they all look the same...

Not at all true. I still doubt these are molesta though, they seem to be slightly polymorphic and more aggressive than usual.

 

From an amateur's standpoint, it's unfortunately true



#14 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 20 2020 - 2:44 PM

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There are ~11 species of Solenopsis in CA and they all look the same...

Not at all true. I still doubt these are molesta though, they seem to be slightly polymorphic and more aggressive than usual.

 

From an amateur's standpoint, it's unfortunately true

 

Invicta, xyloni, and amblychila are very different from molesta relatives.



#15 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 20 2020 - 4:21 PM

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Best would be to just call them Solenopsis species.


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#16 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted January 20 2020 - 5:26 PM

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Solenopsismolesta complex (or at least in the Solenopsis fugax-group) for sure, though species is impossible to rule out from these images.


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#17 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 21 2020 - 11:01 AM

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There are ~11 species of Solenopsis in CA and they all look the same...

Not at all true. I still doubt these are molesta though, they seem to be slightly polymorphic and more aggressive than usual.

 

From an amateur's standpoint, it's unfortunately true

 

invicta and xyloni are much larger and are red and black in coloration (usually). The fugax group tends to be yellow/orange and super tiny.


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