Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

New York, USA - 1-12-20


  • Please log in to reply
16 replies to this topic

#1 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 12 2020 - 11:12 AM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

1. Location of collection: New York, USA

2. Date of collection: 1-12-20
3. Habitat of collection: (very) old sandbox
4. Length: About 2 mm (smaller than P. Imparis)
5. Coloration: Light brownish
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Tibial spur, 12 antennal segments, single-segmented petiole, (see pictures for reference)

 

Screenshot (283).png

 

Screenshot (288).png

 

Screenshot (285).png

 

Screenshot (286).png

 

Screenshot (287).png

 

Screenshot (282).png

 

Screenshot (284).png

 

My guess is some sort of Lasius sp.


Edited by TheMicroPlanet, January 12 2020 - 12:35 PM.


#2 Offline Martialis - Posted January 12 2020 - 11:53 AM

Martialis

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,516 posts
  • LocationMississippi

Better photos?

 

This seems tentatively like Brachymyrmex depilis or Lasius neoniger.

 

This is B. depilis


Edited by Martialis, January 12 2020 - 1:11 PM.

Spoiler

#3 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 12 2020 - 12:20 PM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

Better photos?

 

This seems tentatively like Brachymyrmex depilis or Lasius neoniger.

 

This is B. depilis

Yeah sorry about the photos... i took these under a microscope with an iPhone.

 

And I don't think this is B. depilis. The antennae are different and depilis doesn't have that little knob on the propodeum in profile view.


Edited by TheMicroPlanet, January 12 2020 - 12:23 PM.


#4 Offline Aaron567 - Posted January 12 2020 - 12:29 PM

Aaron567

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,005 posts
  • LocationPensacola, FL

It looks like Lasius neoniger. My reasoning is that the eyes look a little too large for pallitarsis and americanus probably wouldn't be as light colored.

 

All species in the genus Brachymyrmex have only 9-segmented antennae, and that's including the antennal scape (the long part that is only one segment). Lasius have 12 segments; you missed the first segment of the funiculus and the scape which would total to 12 segments.


  • Martialis likes this

#5 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 12 2020 - 12:34 PM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

It looks like Lasius neoniger. My reasoning is that the eyes look a little too large for pallitarsis and americanus probably wouldn't be as light colored.

 

All species in the genus Brachymyrmex have only 9-segmented antennae, and that's including the antennal scape (the long part that is only one segment). Lasius have 12 segments; you missed the first segment of the funiculus and the scape which would total to 12 segments.

Ah ok. I'll make sure to change the antennal segment count in the description.



#6 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 12 2020 - 1:55 PM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

Alright I did some more research and I think it might be Dorymyrmex sp.


Edited by TheMicroPlanet, January 20 2020 - 12:58 PM.


#7 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 12 2020 - 2:22 PM

gcsnelling

    Expert

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,681 posts

It's a Lasius.


  • Manitobant likes this

#8 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 12 2020 - 2:54 PM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Good job on the ID format, this is a Lasius sp. 



#9 Offline Skwiggledork - Posted January 12 2020 - 3:23 PM

Skwiggledork

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 367 posts
  • LocationUlster county, NY

I'm far from good at IDing ants, but don't the mandibles look like a Polyergus sp?



#10 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 12 2020 - 4:30 PM

NickAnter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,307 posts
  • LocationOrange County, California

I'm far from good at IDing ants, but don't the mandibles look like a Polyergus sp?

No, just the weird angle. And this is far too small to be Polyergus.
  • Skwiggledork likes this

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#11 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 12:58 PM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

Ok definitely is Lasius; anyone got any idea on the species?



#12 Offline rbarreto - Posted January 20 2020 - 2:24 PM

rbarreto

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 645 posts
  • LocationOttawa, On
Good way to confirm would be a better angled pic of the clypeus and a picture of the antennal scapes.

Edited by rbarreto, January 20 2020 - 2:26 PM.

My journal featuring most of my ants.

My other journal featuring Formica Bradleyi.

Check our my store here!


#13 Offline Ants4fun - Posted January 20 2020 - 3:51 PM

Ants4fun

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,142 posts
  • LocationSouth Dakota
This is Lasius neoniger

#14 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 20 2020 - 3:52 PM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

This is Lasius neoniger

I think you may be right...


Good way to confirm would be a better angled pic of the clypeus and a picture of the antennal scapes.

This ant is looooong gone.



#15 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 21 2020 - 11:27 AM

RushmoreAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,246 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls, South Dakota

If it's dead and still in your possession you can still take pictures, but I assume it was released or escaped?


Edited by AntsDakota, January 21 2020 - 11:28 AM.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#16 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 21 2020 - 12:04 PM

TheMicroPlanet

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 764 posts
  • LocationNew York, United States

If it's dead and still in your possession you can still take pictures, but I assume it was released or escaped?

I released it



#17 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 22 2020 - 12:28 PM

RushmoreAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,246 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls, South Dakota

Lasius are so cute..... especially their pudgy white callows.  :)


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users