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[Dnail]

I will post it at commend for each queen

[Dnail]

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Bandung
2. Date of collection: 02 November 2019
3. Habitat of collection: City forest
4. Length (from head to gaster): 8 mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: head: orange, torax: dark brown, gaster: dark brown strip white (top), white (bottom)
6. Distinguishing characteristics: 
7. Distinguishing behavior: quick movement
8. Nest description: 

9. Nuptial flight time and date: 8.00 AM

 

Catch 2 deallate and 1 allate
my guess its Camponotus

 

Edited by Dnail, November 4 2019 - 7:27 AM.

[Dnail]

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
2. Date of collection: 04 November 2019
3. Habitat of collection: swarm at lamp on the street near park
4. Length (from head to gaster): 18 mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: brown light to dark
6. Distinguishing characteristics: it can bite but not hurt
7. Distinguishing behavior: 
8. Nest description: 

9. Nuptial flight time and date: 8.00 pm
 

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Is it queen? i'm not sure

I catch 7 of them. Find many allate swarm the lamp but can't find any deallate one. it is right after heavy rain.

[TennesseeAnts]

First queen looks like Camponotus, and second queen may be Carebara.

[camponotuskeeper]

i agree with the carebara

[Ferox_Formicae]

The first queen is Camponotus sp., perhaps in the Myrmaphaenus or Myrmobrachys subgenus and the second queen is Carebara castanea.

[Martialis]

The first queen is Camponotus sp., perhaps in the Myrmaphaenus or Myrmobrachys subgenus and the second queen is Carebara castanea.

 

I agree with Camponotus and Carebara.

 

However, I wouldn't state the subgenera for the Camponotus—those are both endemic to the Americas. 

 

As for the species ID, I wouldn't go that far, either.  Not only is C. castanea native to Indochina (While this was found on Java, an island hundreds of miles away from where specimens of C. castaena were collected), but the pictures aren't near good enough to get an accurate ID.  Especially in a biological hotspot, which has 26 Carebara species alone.

Edited by Martialis, November 4 2019 - 11:05 AM.

[Antennal_Scrobe]

The first one is Colobopsis or Camponotus, the second one is Carebara cf. castanea. (In case you didn't know, the cf. is not part of the species name, but is added to indicate uncertainty.)

[TennesseeAnts]

Yes! I was right about the Carebara!

[Kaelwizard]

I think the first one is colobopsis because of the face shape.

[TennesseeAnts]

No. Colobopsis have truncated faces. This is Camponotus.

[Martialis]

The first one is Colobopsis or Camponotus, the second one is Carebara cf. castanea. (In case you didn't know, the cf. is not part of the species name, but is added to indicate uncertainty.)

C. castaena lives in Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam. This is in JAVA, an island in Indonesia. It’s quite rare for a species found over 1600 miles away, separated by an ocean, to be found on an island natively.

[Antennal_Scrobe]

Hence the cf.

[Aaron567]

The species Carebara lignata, found in Java, appears to be very similar to castanea. It's largely possible this queen is that species.

[Manitobant]

I'm thinking colobopsis and carebara lignata (note that carebara queens are EXTREMELY sensitive and should not be disturbed unless absolutely necessary)

I'm thinking colobopsis and carebara lignata (note that carebara queena are EXTREMELY sensitive and should not be disturbed unless absolutely necessary)

Edited by Manitobant, November 4 2019 - 5:30 PM.

[TennesseeAnts]

Again, Colobopsis have truncated faces.

[Dnail]

Oh that's Carabera quenn, should have catch more 

i put 3 of them in test tube with soil, 1 with coco peat, 2 with nothing (plain test tube), and 1 i just dump her at container with soil (she start digging chamber this morning)

[TennesseeAnts]

Good luck with her!

[Antennal_Scrobe]

Again, Colobopsis have truncated faces.

In many species, truncation is less evident, especially in queens. The ant in question looks about right for Colobopsis vitrea, but could just as easily be a phragmotic Camponotus species like C. bellus.

 

Colobopsis vitrea:

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

[Dnail]

 

Again, Colobopsis have truncated faces.

In many species, truncation is less evident, especially in queens. The ant in question looks about right for Colobopsis vitrea, but could just as easily be a phragmotic Camponotus species like C. bellus.

 

Colobopsis vitrea:

https://www.antweb.o...t=allantwebants

 

i check both of them, they look similar  , maybe we need to wait until she have worker

so far i never saw worker with this kind of coloration.

both of them fully claustral  right?