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unknown queen ant found (san antonio, texas)


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#1 Offline firehalk - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:14 PM

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Please help me find the species of this queen ant I found under a rock!

1. Location of collection: (San Antonio, Texas) 

2. Date of collection (4,6,15)
3. Habitat of collection (under a rock with shrubs around it.)
4. Length ( 5 mil.)
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture (orangish yellow gaster and the rest is black)
6. Distinguishing characteristics: (just the orange gaster)
 

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#2 Offline AntTeen804 - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:16 PM

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Please post a picture of the queen

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#3 Offline firehalk - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:23 PM

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Please post a picture of the queen

I did sorry i did it wrong the first time



#4 Offline cpman - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:26 PM

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Are you sure that it is only 5 mm long? There is a large Camponotus around here with identical looks, but the queens are closer to 15 mm.



#5 Offline AntTeen804 - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:29 PM

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Looks like a camponotus consobrinus queen

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#6 Offline AntTeen804 - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:30 PM

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On wiki it says camponotus consobrinus range from 7-15 mm

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#7 Offline firehalk - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:32 PM

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Are you sure that it is only 5 mm long? There is a large Camponotus around here with identical looks, but the queens are closer to 15 mm.

again sorry i was looking at the wrong side you are right it is about 18 mm long, i think its a bit shorter it was moving when i measured it


thanks for your help!


On wiki it says camponotus consobrinus range from 7-15 mm

ok thank you!


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#8 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:41 PM

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5mm :lol: I was going to ask you if you used a ruler when you measured it, but it looks like we already got that sorted out. Nice looking queen.



#9 Offline cpman - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:42 PM

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I highly doubt that it is Camponotus consobrinus. That species does not occur here in Texas. My guess would be C. sansabeanus, the queens of that species look very similar. This same species that you have flew here two days ago.


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#10 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 6 2015 - 5:58 PM

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So you're pretty sure that was C. sansabeanus that flew? I need to add that to the chart.



#11 Offline cpman - Posted April 6 2015 - 6:14 PM

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I'm pretty sure that those were C. sansabeanus. I became most confident in the ID of these queens after I saw this last year.



#12 Offline firehalk - Posted April 8 2015 - 4:26 AM

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I like how they flew so early in the year

#13 Offline James C. Trager - Posted April 8 2015 - 4:30 AM

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Might be Camponotus ocreatus. (Certianly not C. consobrinus, an Australian species.)



#14 Offline jjjakes - Posted April 8 2015 - 10:42 AM

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Hey I live in San Antonio too, would it be too late now to find queens from this flight? I think it was saturday that it occurred. I went searching for a bit and all I found under rocks where big C. sansabeanus colonies. :(  I was able to catch one C. sansabeanus queen on the day of the flight but I am thinking she is not fertilized because all she has done is sit in her container with her wings still on. 

 

Edit: Nevermind! I changed the places I was looking for them and found 6 queens in 20 mins of flipping rocks. :) 


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#15 Offline cpman - Posted April 8 2015 - 5:12 PM

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Might be Camponotus ocreatus.

C. ocreatus occurs in San Antonio?!

My one map only has records of this species from far west Texas.

I'd be really interested to know exactly where they occur, as one of my current queens is quite similar to this.


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