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#1 Offline camponotuskeeper - Posted October 2 2019 - 6:02 PM

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Location- walla walla, Washington

Location climate- dry, fire pit next to rocks,

size 3 milimeters
Coloration- brown, narrow body
Distinguishing characteristics- pointed long abdomen, tiny, only 1 under Each rock
Nuptial flight time-n/a
Will post pics can’t on my ipad do don’t yell at me for no pictures

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Edited by camponotuskeeper, October 2 2019 - 6:30 PM.


#2 Offline camponotuskeeper - Posted October 2 2019 - 6:30 PM

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sorry for bad pics best i could do with tiny ant



#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 2 2019 - 6:58 PM

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Definitely a ponerine, possibly ponera pennsylvanica? She is semi claustral and needs feeding in order to get past the founding stage.

#4 Offline camponotuskeeper - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:03 PM

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ant maps says that species is not in washington and i looked again and saw 1 ant is 3 milimeters the others are more like 5 milimeters could it be stigmatomma oregonese? and are they queens? 


Edited by camponotuskeeper, October 2 2019 - 7:03 PM.


#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:10 PM

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ant maps says that species is not in washington and i looked again and saw 1 ant is 3 milimeters the others are more like 5 milimeters could it be stigmatomma oregonese? and are they queens?

could be hypoponera then, and antmaps isn't always right. Pennsylvanica is in Washington according to antweb.

EDIT: it looks very close to hypoponera opacior, there is a good chance that it is this species.

Edited by Manitobant, October 2 2019 - 7:15 PM.


#6 Offline camponotuskeeper - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:14 PM

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what about the size difference worker and queen? different species? are they queens?

 

if it is that what should i feed them? 


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#7 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:16 PM

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Well almost all ponerine workers and queens are virtually identical except for a small size difference that is hardly even noticeable. Hypoponera opacior is probably the most likely candidate.

#8 Offline camponotuskeeper - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:20 PM

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ok what should i feed them? and are hypoponera opacior fully claustral



#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:24 PM

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ok what should i feed them? and are hypoponera opacior fully claustral

as I said before they are semi claustral and some of the hardest semis to raise. I would put some soil in her test tube to keep it moist (they are also horrible at climbing glass) and feeding her the stuff you feed regular colonies. And also, she may not be a queen so don't be too upset if she dies

Edited by Manitobant, October 2 2019 - 7:25 PM.


#10 Offline camponotuskeeper - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:26 PM

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are they polygynous? ok i won't be to upset.


Edited by camponotuskeeper, October 2 2019 - 7:27 PM.


#11 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 2 2019 - 7:36 PM

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are they polygynous? ok i won't be to upset.

I think so though I'm not sure.

#12 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 3 2019 - 2:07 PM

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Ponera pennsylvanica are, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are as well.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#13 Offline ponerinecat - Posted October 3 2019 - 2:28 PM

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hypoponera are not easily poly, do not combine. 


feed her insect bits and some honey in paper


give her lots of dirt






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